<p>On today’s episode, host Kate Lindsay is joined by writer and comedian <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mattbooshell" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Matt Buechele </a>to talk about how the etiquette around phones is shifting, with previously phone-free spaces now welcoming them into the room. In almost all cases, this makes the experience worse for everyone else, but rather than rebelling, people are starting to accept this as a fact of life. Enough! Let Kate watch <em>Hokum</em> in peace!</p><br><p>This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, and Kate Lindsay.</p><p>Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our <a href="https://slate.com/podcastfaqs#plusbenefits" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FAQ</a> at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required.</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>