<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;00:00&lt;/strong&gt; – Intro: Cody Finke returns to the podcast.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;04:30&lt;/strong&gt; – The "Rock Refinery": Moving beyond cement to co-produce aluminum and critical minerals.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;05:39&lt;/strong&gt; – The Physics of Scale: Why cost parity is impossible with small reactors.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;08:12&lt;/strong&gt; – The History of Co-Production: From whale oil to Standard Oil's catalytic cracking.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;12:39&lt;/strong&gt; – "Bad Geologic Luck": Why traditional limestone cement plants can't co-produce.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;18:54&lt;/strong&gt; – De-Risking Deep Tech: How Brimstone uses off-the-shelf components to build a massive patent moat.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;28:33&lt;/strong&gt; – Fundraising Strategy: Raising ~$90M and executing pilot plants.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;33:44&lt;/strong&gt; – PR for Founders: When to stay in stealth and when to reveal your grand vision.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;38:18&lt;/strong&gt; – The $189M DOE Grant: Winning the money under Biden, losing it under Trump, and why it wasn't a disaster.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;45:54&lt;/strong&gt; – Geopolitics &amp; Manufacturing: Why critical materials and heavy industry must return to democratic countries.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;50:28&lt;/strong&gt; – The Ultimate Climate Strategy: Why capitalism only rewards lower costs, not moral outcomes.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit &lt;a href="https://cleantechies.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&amp;#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2"&gt;cleantechies.substack.com/subscribe&lt;/a&gt;</description>

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#279 They Lost $189m DOE Grant, but Survived. Learn Why | Cody Finke (Brimstone)

MAR 4, 202655 MIN
CleanTechies Podcast

#279 They Lost $189m DOE Grant, but Survived. Learn Why | Cody Finke (Brimstone)

MAR 4, 202655 MIN

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<p><strong>00:00</strong> – Intro: Cody Finke returns to the podcast.</p><p><strong>04:30</strong> – The "Rock Refinery": Moving beyond cement to co-produce aluminum and critical minerals.</p><p><strong>05:39</strong> – The Physics of Scale: Why cost parity is impossible with small reactors.</p><p><strong>08:12</strong> – The History of Co-Production: From whale oil to Standard Oil's catalytic cracking.</p><p><strong>12:39</strong> – "Bad Geologic Luck": Why traditional limestone cement plants can't co-produce.</p><p><strong>18:54</strong> – De-Risking Deep Tech: How Brimstone uses off-the-shelf components to build a massive patent moat.</p><p><strong>28:33</strong> – Fundraising Strategy: Raising ~$90M and executing pilot plants.</p><p><strong>33:44</strong> – PR for Founders: When to stay in stealth and when to reveal your grand vision.</p><p><strong>38:18</strong> – The $189M DOE Grant: Winning the money under Biden, losing it under Trump, and why it wasn't a disaster.</p><p><strong>45:54</strong> – Geopolitics & Manufacturing: Why critical materials and heavy industry must return to democratic countries.</p><p><strong>50:28</strong> – The Ultimate Climate Strategy: Why capitalism only rewards lower costs, not moral outcomes.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://cleantechies.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_2">cleantechies.substack.com/subscribe</a>