IDW artist Nick Roche returns to Triple Takeover to talk Transformers Generations: Thrilling 30 — the 2013–2014 toy line — and the unusual creative journey that links Sandstorm and Springer.Nick discusses supplying an original Sandstorm concept to Hasbro, how that design eventually became a finished toy, and how it was later retooled into Springer — released first, and coincidentally based on Nick’s own comic design for the character as seen in IDW’s Last Stand of the Wreckers.Along the way, the conversation drifts (as it tends to with Nick) into nostalgia, collecting, community, and the realities of working across different parts of the Transformers brand — including his more recent design work on Transformers Earthspark. Expect equal parts toy history, behind-the-scenes insight, and good-natured chaos.This episode began life as a commission from our patron, Josh Bell.—Chapters0:00:00 Intro0:05:54 Thrilling 30 In Context0:10:58 How the Sandstorm Concept Came to Be0:23:35 Nick's First Impressions of the Toys0:42:28 Translating From Sandstorm Into Springer0:49:27 How Nick Designed Springer for IDW1:02:04 Owning Toys of Characters You've Created1:18:53 TFSource Sponsor Segment1:28:35 Patreon Q&A—Enjoying the show? There’s more than meets the ear...Find show notes at https://www.tripletakeover.comJoin the conversation with us on DiscordSupport the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tripletakeover