This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in November 2025. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/425 Adrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard &amp; Author of &apos;Using Docker&apos; Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author &amp; Consultant RESOURCES Adrian https://bsky.app/profile/adrianmouat.com https://twitter.com/adrianmouat https://github.com/amouat https://linkedin.com/in/adrianmouat http://www.adrianmouat.com Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Links https://images.chainguard.dev https://www.cisa.gov/sbom https://www.chainguard.dev/supply-chain-security-101/the-npm-registry-cant-protect-you-the-new-javascript-supply-chain-attacks https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/discovering-the-xz-backdoor-with-andres-freund https://edu.chainguard.dev DESCRIPTION In this State of the Art episode, Charles Humble speaks with Adrian Mouat, Developer Relations at Chainguard and author of &quot;Using Docker&quot;, about the evolution of container security and the persistent challenge of outdated packages. Adrian explains how traditional Linux distributions weren&apos;t designed for the immutable, frequently-replaced nature of containers, leading to security vulnerabilities that scanners detect but teams struggle to address. He discusses how Chainguard tackles this problem by building everything from source using Wolfi, creating minimal &quot;distroless&quot; images with near-zero CVEs, and how concepts like SBOMs, attestations, and defense in depth are reshaping security practices. The conversation also covers major security incidents including the XZ Utils backdoor and Shai-hulud attacks, emphasizing the importance of building from source, using short-lived credentials, and replacing rather than updating containers – practices pioneered by companies like Google that are gradually spreading across the industry. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Adrian Mouat • Using Docker • https://amzn.to/3PEYIJL Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075<a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'>Bluesky</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'>Instagram</a> <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'>LinkedIn</a> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'>Facebook</a> CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp; other perks: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join </a> Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: <a href='https://gotopia.tech'>gotopia.tech</a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'>SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL</a> - new videos posted daily!

<description>&lt;p&gt;This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in November 2025.&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Read the full transcription of this interview here:&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech/articles/425&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Adrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard &amp;amp; Author of &amp;apos;Using Docker&amp;apos;&lt;br/&gt;Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author &amp;amp; Consultant&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RESOURCES&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Adrian&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/adrianmouat.com&lt;br/&gt;https://twitter.com/adrianmouat&lt;br/&gt;https://github.com/amouat&lt;br/&gt;https://linkedin.com/in/adrianmouat&lt;br/&gt;http://www.adrianmouat.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Charles&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social&lt;br/&gt;https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble&lt;br/&gt;https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble&lt;br/&gt;https://conissaunce.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://images.chainguard.dev&lt;br/&gt;https://www.cisa.gov/sbom&lt;br/&gt;https://www.chainguard.dev/supply-chain-security-101/the-npm-registry-cant-protect-you-the-new-javascript-supply-chain-attacks&lt;br/&gt;https://oxide-and-friends.transistor.fm/episodes/discovering-the-xz-backdoor-with-andres-freund&lt;br/&gt;https://edu.chainguard.dev&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;DESCRIPTION&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In this State of the Art episode, Charles Humble speaks with Adrian Mouat, Developer Relations at Chainguard and author of &amp;quot;Using Docker&amp;quot;, about the evolution of container security and the persistent challenge of outdated packages.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Adrian explains how traditional Linux distributions weren&amp;apos;t designed for the immutable, frequently-replaced nature of containers, leading to security vulnerabilities that scanners detect but teams struggle to address. He discusses how Chainguard tackles this problem by building everything from source using Wolfi, creating minimal &amp;quot;distroless&amp;quot; images with near-zero CVEs, and how concepts like SBOMs, attestations, and defense in depth are reshaping security practices.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The conversation also covers major security incidents including the XZ Utils backdoor and Shai-hulud attacks, emphasizing the importance of building from source, using short-lived credentials, and replacing rather than updating containers – practices pioneered by companies like Google that are gradually spreading across the industry.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RECOMMENDED BOOKS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Adrian Mouat • Using Docker • https://amzn.to/3PEYIJL&lt;br/&gt;Liz Rice • Container Security • https://amzn.to/3oU4iJe&lt;br/&gt;Liz Rice • Kubernetes Security • https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/kubernetes-security/9781492039075&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp;amp; other perks:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looking for a unique learning experience?&lt;br/&gt;Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: &lt;a href='https://gotopia.tech'&gt;gotopia.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'&gt;SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL&lt;/a&gt; - new videos posted daily!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in November 2025. https://gotopia.tech  Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/425  Adrian Mouat - Developer Relations at Chainguard &amp; Author of 'Using Docker' Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author &amp; Consultant  RESOURCES Adrian https://bsky.app/profile/adrianmouat.com https://twitter.com/adrianmouat https://github.com/amouat https://linkedin.com/in/adrianmouat http:...

State of the Art of Container Security • Adrian Mouat & Charles Humble

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/427 Nick Selby - Managing Partner at EPSD Sarah Wells - Independent Consultant &amp; Author of &quot;Enabling Microservice Success&quot; RESOURCES Nick https://infosec.exchange/@fuzztech https://bsky.app/profile/nickselby.com https://github.com/nickselby https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickselby https://nickselby.com Sarah https://bsky.app/profile/sarahjwells.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/sarahjwells1 https://www.sarahwells.dev Links https://ainowinstitute.org/contributor/heidy https://www.heidyk.com DESCRIPTION In this conversation, Sarah Wells and Nick Selby explore why the current rush to adopt AI tools introduces significant business risks. They discuss how AI vendors deliberately blur security terminology to confuse buyers, how AI tools&apos; insatiable appetite for data creates enormous blast radii when breaches occur, and what organizations can do to adopt AI responsibly - from threat modeling and cross-disciplinary governance to minimum-permission principles and incident readiness. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Sarah Wells • Enabling Microservice Success • https://amzn.to/4aa8xrv Katharine Jarmul • Practical Data Privacy • https://amzn.to/3OafC3m Katharine Jarmul &amp; Jacqueline Kazil • Data Wrangling with Python • https://amzn.to/3Ue5BV5<a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'>Bluesky</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'>Instagram</a> <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'>LinkedIn</a> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'>Facebook</a> CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp; other perks: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join </a> Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: <a href='https://gotopia.tech'>gotopia.tech</a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'>SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL</a> - new videos posted daily!

<description>&lt;p&gt;This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Check out more here:&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech/articles/427&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nick Selby - Managing Partner at EPSD&lt;br/&gt;Sarah Wells - Independent Consultant &amp;amp; Author of &amp;quot;Enabling Microservice Success&amp;quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RESOURCES&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Nick&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://infosec.exchange/@fuzztech&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/nickselby.com&lt;br/&gt;https://github.com/nickselby&lt;br/&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickselby&lt;br/&gt;https://nickselby.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Sarah&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/sarahjwells.bsky.social&lt;br/&gt;https://linkedin.com/in/sarahjwells1&lt;br/&gt;https://www.sarahwells.dev&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://ainowinstitute.org/contributor/heidy&lt;br/&gt;https://www.heidyk.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;DESCRIPTION&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In this conversation, Sarah Wells and Nick Selby explore why the current rush to adopt AI tools introduces significant business risks. They discuss how AI vendors deliberately blur security terminology to confuse buyers, how AI tools&amp;apos; insatiable appetite for data creates enormous blast radii when breaches occur, and what organizations can do to adopt AI responsibly - from threat modeling and cross-disciplinary governance to minimum-permission principles and incident readiness.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RECOMMENDED BOOKS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Sarah Wells • Enabling Microservice Success • https://amzn.to/4aa8xrv&lt;br/&gt;Katharine Jarmul • Practical Data Privacy • https://amzn.to/3OafC3m&lt;br/&gt;Katharine Jarmul &amp;amp; Jacqueline Kazil • Data Wrangling with Python • https://amzn.to/3Ue5BV5&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp;amp; other perks:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looking for a unique learning experience?&lt;br/&gt;Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: &lt;a href='https://gotopia.tech'&gt;gotopia.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'&gt;SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL&lt;/a&gt; - new videos posted daily!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech  Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/427  Nick Selby - Managing Partner at EPSD Sarah Wells - Independent Consultant &amp; Author of "Enabling Microservice Success"  RESOURCES Nick https://infosec.exchange/@fuzztech https://bsky.app/profile/nickselby.com https://github.com/nickselby https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickselby https://nickselby.com  Sarah https://bsky.app/profile/sarahjwells.bsky.social https://link...

The Rush to Adopt AI: How to Get it Right & Business Risks • Nick Selby & Sarah Wells

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/426 Frances Buontempo - Consultant, Developer &amp; Author of &quot;Learn C++ by Example&quot; Matt Godbolt - Low-level Latency Geek &amp; Creator of Compiler Explorer RESOURCES Frances https://bsky.app/profile/fbuontempo.bsky.social https://mastodon.social/@fbuontempo https://x.com/fbuontempo https://github.com/doctorlove https://www.linkedin.com/in/francesbuontempo https://about.me/frances_buontempo https://buontempoconsulting.blogspot.com Matt https://bsky.app/profile/matt.godbolt.org https://xania.org https://github.com/mattgodbolt https://www.linkedin.com/in/godbolt https://twitter.com/mattgodbolt https://godbolt.org Links https://cppinsights.io DESCRIPTION Matt Godbolt interviews Frances Buontempo about her book &quot;Learn C++ by Example&quot;, a practical guide aimed at helping programmers relearn modern C++ features introduced since C++11. Frances shares her unique teaching philosophy, which emphasizes self-contained, playable examples like simple games that make complex concepts accessible and memorable. Drawing on her background in mathematics and her father&apos;s work in teacher education, she explains how her approach—exemplified by her famous &quot;X Out of a Y Paper Bag&quot; series of talks—uses humor and practical scenarios to help learners understand challenging topics like coroutines, the spaceship operator, and the &quot;almost always auto&quot; style. The discussion touches on the evolution of C++, the upcoming reflection features in C++26, and Fran&apos;s current project: writing an introductory C++ book for complete beginners, despite finding concepts like &quot;constant variable&quot; challenging to explain even as an experienced author. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Frances Buontempo • Learn C++ by Example • https://amzn.to/4rgxSZX Frances Buontempo • Introducing C++ • https://amzn.to/40aHQQC Frances Buontempo • Genetic Algorithms and Machine Learning for Programmers • https://amzn.to/3OLjXMV Daniel Kusswurm • Modern Parallel Programming with C++ and Assembly Language • https://amzn.to/4o5J3SF<a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'>Bluesky</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'>Instagram</a> <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'>LinkedIn</a> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'>Facebook</a> CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp; other perks: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join </a> Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: <a href='https://gotopia.tech'>gotopia.tech</a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'>SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL</a> - new videos posted daily!

<description>&lt;p&gt;This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.&lt;br/&gt;http://gotopia.tech/bookclub&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Check out more here:&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech/episodes/426&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Frances Buontempo - Consultant, Developer &amp;amp; Author of &amp;quot;Learn C++ by Example&amp;quot;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Godbolt - Low-level Latency Geek &amp;amp; Creator of Compiler Explorer&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RESOURCES&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Frances&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/fbuontempo.bsky.social&lt;br/&gt;https://mastodon.social/@fbuontempo&lt;br/&gt;https://x.com/fbuontempo&lt;br/&gt;https://github.com/doctorlove&lt;br/&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/francesbuontempo&lt;br/&gt;https://about.me/frances_buontempo&lt;br/&gt;https://buontempoconsulting.blogspot.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Matt&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/matt.godbolt.org&lt;br/&gt;https://xania.org&lt;br/&gt;https://github.com/mattgodbolt&lt;br/&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/godbolt&lt;br/&gt;https://twitter.com/mattgodbolt&lt;br/&gt;https://godbolt.org&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://cppinsights.io&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;DESCRIPTION&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Godbolt interviews Frances Buontempo about her book &amp;quot;Learn C++ by Example&amp;quot;, a practical guide aimed at helping programmers relearn modern C++ features introduced since C++11. Frances shares her unique teaching philosophy, which emphasizes self-contained, playable examples like simple games that make complex concepts accessible and memorable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Drawing on her background in mathematics and her father&amp;apos;s work in teacher education, she explains how her approach—exemplified by her famous &amp;quot;X Out of a Y Paper Bag&amp;quot; series of talks—uses humor and practical scenarios to help learners understand challenging topics like coroutines, the spaceship operator, and the &amp;quot;almost always auto&amp;quot; style. The discussion touches on the evolution of C++, the upcoming reflection features in C++26, and Fran&amp;apos;s current project: writing an introductory C++ book for complete beginners, despite finding concepts like &amp;quot;constant variable&amp;quot; challenging to explain even as an experienced author.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RECOMMENDED BOOKS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Frances Buontempo • Learn C++ by Example • https://amzn.to/4rgxSZX&lt;br/&gt;Frances Buontempo • Introducing C++ • https://amzn.to/40aHQQC&lt;br/&gt;Frances Buontempo • Genetic Algorithms and Machine Learning for Programmers • https://amzn.to/3OLjXMV&lt;br/&gt;Daniel Kusswurm • Modern Parallel Programming with C++ and Assembly Language • https://amzn.to/4o5J3SF&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp;amp; other perks:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looking for a unique learning experience?&lt;br/&gt;Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: &lt;a href='https://gotopia.tech'&gt;gotopia.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'&gt;SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL&lt;/a&gt; - new videos posted daily!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub  Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/426  Frances Buontempo - Consultant, Developer &amp; Author of "Learn C++ by Example" Matt Godbolt - Low-level Latency Geek &amp; Creator of Compiler Explorer  RESOURCES Frances https://bsky.app/profile/fbuontempo.bsky.social https://mastodon.social/@fbuontempo https://x.com/fbuontempo https://github.com/doctorlove https://www.linkedin.com/in/francesbuontempo ht...

Learn C++ by Example • Frances Buontempo & Matt Godbolt

This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in January 2026. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/423 Dr. Ewelina Kurtys - Strategic Advisor on Frontier Technologies at FinalSpark Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author &amp; Consultant RESOURCES Ewelina https://x.com/ewelina_kurtys https://github.com/ewelinaewela https://www.linkedin.com/in/ewelinakurtys https://www.ewelinakurtys.com Charles https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble https://conissaunce.com Links https://finalspark.com https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/biologically-inspired-computing-dr-ewelina-kurtys-udnhe https://finalspark.com/finalspark-6-month-research-technology-update https://finalspark.com/first-publication-from-a-neuroplatform-user DESCRIPTION Dr. Ewelina Kurtys, Strategy Advisor at FinalSpark, discusses the revolutionary potential of biological computing with host Charles Humble. The conversation explores FinalSpark&apos;s ambitious goal to build computers using living neurons that are 1 million times more energy efficient than current digital systems. Ewelina explains the technical challenges of working with brain organoids, the ethical considerations of using human stem cells, and why biological neurons could dramatically reduce AI costs while offering unique advantages for complex tasks like generative AI. The interview covers everything from neural encoding and plasticity to consciousness and the deterministic nature of the brain. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Robert M. Sapolsk • Determined • https://amzn.to/4akv2gi Jin Xu • Biological Computing • https://amzn.to/4a4Wwp9<a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'>Bluesky</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'>Instagram</a> <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'>LinkedIn</a> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'>Facebook</a> CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp; other perks: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join </a> Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: <a href='https://gotopia.tech'>gotopia.tech</a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'>SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL</a> - new videos posted daily!

<description>&lt;p&gt;This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in January 2026.&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Read the full transcription of this interview here:&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech/articles/423&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dr. Ewelina Kurtys - Strategic Advisor on Frontier Technologies at FinalSpark&lt;br/&gt;Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author &amp;amp; Consultant&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RESOURCES&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Ewelina&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://x.com/ewelina_kurtys&lt;br/&gt;https://github.com/ewelinaewela&lt;br/&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/ewelinakurtys&lt;br/&gt;https://www.ewelinakurtys.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Charles&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.social&lt;br/&gt;https://linkedin.com/in/charleshumble&lt;br/&gt;https://mastodon.social/@charleshumble&lt;br/&gt;https://conissaunce.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://finalspark.com&lt;br/&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/biologically-inspired-computing-dr-ewelina-kurtys-udnhe&lt;br/&gt;https://finalspark.com/finalspark-6-month-research-technology-update&lt;br/&gt;https://finalspark.com/first-publication-from-a-neuroplatform-user&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;DESCRIPTION&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dr. Ewelina Kurtys, Strategy Advisor at FinalSpark, discusses the revolutionary potential of biological computing with host Charles Humble.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The conversation explores FinalSpark&amp;apos;s ambitious goal to build computers using living neurons that are 1 million times more energy efficient than current digital systems. Ewelina explains the technical challenges of working with brain organoids, the ethical considerations of using human stem cells, and why biological neurons could dramatically reduce AI costs while offering unique advantages for complex tasks like generative AI.&lt;br/&gt;The interview covers everything from neural encoding and plasticity to consciousness and the deterministic nature of the brain.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RECOMMENDED BOOKS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Robert M. Sapolsk • Determined • https://amzn.to/4akv2gi&lt;br/&gt;Jin Xu • Biological Computing • https://amzn.to/4a4Wwp9&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp;amp; other perks:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looking for a unique learning experience?&lt;br/&gt;Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: &lt;a href='https://gotopia.tech'&gt;gotopia.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'&gt;SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL&lt;/a&gt; - new videos posted daily!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

This interview was recorded for GOTO State of the Art in January 2026. https://gotopia.tech  Read the full transcription of this interview here: https://gotopia.tech/articles/423  Dr. Ewelina Kurtys - Strategic Advisor on Frontier Technologies at FinalSpark Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author &amp; Consultant  RESOURCES Ewelina https://x.com/ewelina_kurtys https://github.com/ewelinaewela https://www.linkedin.com/in/ewelinakurtys https://www.ewelinakurtys.com  Charles ...

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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/424 Susanne Kaiser - Independent Tech Consultant &amp; Author of &quot;Architecture for Flow&quot; James Lewis - Software Architect &amp; Director at Thoughtworks RESOURCES Susanne https://bsky.app/profile/suksr.bsky.social https://mastodon.social/@suksr https://twitter.com/suksr https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannekaiser1 https://susannekaiser.net James https://bsky.app/profile/boicy.bovon.org https://twitter.com/boicy https://linkedin.com/in/james-lewis-microservices https://github.com/boicy https://www.bovon.org Links https://susannekaiser.net/the-architecture-for-flow-canvas https://susannekaiser.net/articles https://www.christenseninstitute.org/theory/jobs-to-be-done DESCRIPTION James Lewis interviews Susanne Kaiser about her comprehensive new book &quot;Architecture for Flow: Adaptive Systems with Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping and Team Topologies&quot;. Susanne shares how she brought together 3 powerful frameworks over several years of her consulting work, creating a holistic approach to designing socio-technical systems. The discussion covers her journey from startup CTO to independent consultant, the evolution of her thinking around value streams and team organization, and her practical &quot;Architecture for Flow Canvas&quot; that teams can use to assess their current state and envision their future. With 126 hand-drawn illustrations and 599 sticky notes in the book, Kaiser emphasizes the importance of visual communication and starting with the problem space before jumping to solutions. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping &amp; Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/3XTmNCc Matthew Skelton &amp; Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/4a2gh0i Woods, Erder &amp; Pureur • Continuous Architecture in Practice • https://amzn.to/2QWAmkl Steve Pereira &amp; Andrew Davis • Flow Engineering • https://amzn.to/3GY3u44 Stefan Hofer &amp; Henning Schwentner • Domain Storytelling • https://amzn.to/3EroBH7<a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'>Bluesky</a> <a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'>Instagram</a> <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'>LinkedIn</a> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'>Facebook</a> CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp; other perks: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join </a> Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: <a href='https://gotopia.tech'>gotopia.tech</a> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'>SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL</a> - new videos posted daily!

<description>&lt;p&gt;This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.&lt;br/&gt;http://gotopia.tech/bookclub&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Check out more here:&lt;br/&gt;https://gotopia.tech/episodes/424&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Susanne Kaiser - Independent Tech Consultant &amp;amp; Author of &amp;quot;Architecture for Flow&amp;quot;&lt;br/&gt;James Lewis - Software Architect &amp;amp; Director at Thoughtworks&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RESOURCES&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Susanne&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/suksr.bsky.social&lt;br/&gt;https://mastodon.social/@suksr&lt;br/&gt;https://twitter.com/suksr&lt;br/&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannekaiser1&lt;br/&gt;https://susannekaiser.net&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;James&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://bsky.app/profile/boicy.bovon.org&lt;br/&gt;https://twitter.com/boicy&lt;br/&gt;https://linkedin.com/in/james-lewis-microservices&lt;br/&gt;https://github.com/boicy&lt;br/&gt;https://www.bovon.org&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;https://susannekaiser.net/the-architecture-for-flow-canvas&lt;br/&gt;https://susannekaiser.net/articles&lt;br/&gt;https://www.christenseninstitute.org/theory/jobs-to-be-done&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;DESCRIPTION&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;James Lewis interviews Susanne Kaiser about her comprehensive new book &amp;quot;Architecture for Flow: Adaptive Systems with Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping and Team Topologies&amp;quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Susanne shares how she brought together 3 powerful frameworks over several years of her consulting work, creating a holistic approach to designing socio-technical systems. The discussion covers her journey from startup CTO to independent consultant, the evolution of her thinking around value streams and team organization, and her practical &amp;quot;Architecture for Flow Canvas&amp;quot; that teams can use to assess their current state and envision their future.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With 126 hand-drawn illustrations and 599 sticky notes in the book, Kaiser emphasizes the importance of visual communication and starting with the problem space before jumping to solutions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;RECOMMENDED BOOKS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping &amp;amp; Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/3XTmNCc&lt;br/&gt;Matthew Skelton &amp;amp; Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • https://amzn.to/4a2gh0i&lt;br/&gt;Woods, Erder &amp;amp; Pureur • Continuous Architecture in Practice • https://amzn.to/2QWAmkl&lt;br/&gt;Steve Pereira &amp;amp; Andrew Davis • Flow Engineering • https://amzn.to/3GY3u44&lt;br/&gt;Stefan Hofer &amp;amp; Henning Schwentner • Domain Storytelling • https://amzn.to/3EroBH7&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href='https://bsky.app/profile/gotocon.com'&gt;Bluesky&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.instagram.com/goto_con'&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.linkedin.com/company/goto-'&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.facebook.com/GOTOConferences'&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/b&gt;Join this channel to get early access to videos &amp;amp; other perks:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join'&gt;https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Looking for a unique learning experience?&lt;br/&gt;Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: &lt;a href='https://gotopia.tech'&gt;gotopia.tech&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.youtube.com/user/GotoConferences/?sub_confirmation=1'&gt;SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL&lt;/a&gt; - new videos posted daily!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club. http://gotopia.tech/bookclub  Check out more here: https://gotopia.tech/episodes/424  Susanne Kaiser - Independent Tech Consultant &amp; Author of "Architecture for Flow" James Lewis - Software Architect &amp; Director at Thoughtworks  RESOURCES Susanne https://bsky.app/profile/suksr.bsky.social https://mastodon.social/@suksr https://twitter.com/suksr https://www.linkedin.com/in/susannekaiser1 https://susannekaiser.net  James https://bsky.ap...

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