<p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Tara Boyce joins us to reconsider Tom Whyman’s episode about “hope.” Is Tom too hopeful? </p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Transcript at our website, firesidepod.org/episodes/boyce.</p><p class="" style="white-space:pre-wrap;">Buy the book and other merch at firesidepod.org/store.</p>