Brooke DeVard has spent 10 years and 400+ interviews going deep on beauty — and she's figured out a few things. The Naked Beauty podcast host and Chief Content Officer at Refinery29 joins Molly and Emese for a conversation that's equal parts obsessive and refreshingly real. They get into the four habits she's noticed in every woman with genuinely great skin, why she thinks your morning makeup is actually a primer for your evening look, and the wellness trends she'd send straight to the trash. Plus what it was like starting a beauty podcast in 2016 when no one knew what a podcast was, how she thinks about beauty as self-expression rather than performance, and the Bio-Dance mask she swears by over everything else. Available at kaifragrance.com use code LIPSTICK for 20% off Head to hairstory.com/lipstick and use code LIPSTICK at checkout for 15% off your first order.  AncientandBrave.com/LIPSTICK for 10 dollars off any purchase.  A Sony Music Entertainment production.  Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us at @sonypodcasts  To bring your brand to life in this podcast, email [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices