Value Based Care Advisory (VBCA) Podcast
Value Based Care Advisory (VBCA) Podcast

Value Based Care Advisory (VBCA) Podcast

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The VBCA Podcast is a solution-focused platform dedicated to advancing the transformation of healthcare through value-based care (VBC) models. Our mission is to break down complex healthcare topics into accessible, actionable insights for leaders, entrepreneurs, engaged consumers, and anyone passionate about meaningful change in healthcare. By challenging the healthcare industrial complex, we provide tools, strategies, and expert perspectives that empower our listeners to navigate and accelerate the shift toward better outcomes, lower costs, and improved patient experiences. Each episode delivers thought-provoking discussions and practical advice from industry experts, spotlighting innovative approaches to healthcare reform and highlighting voices that are often overlooked in traditional dialogues. Whether you're a healthcare executive, provider, payer, policy influencer, entrepreneur, or informed patient, we aim to inspire new ideas and support you in driving transformation in the healthcare space. Powered by Carenodes.

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Medicare Negotiates Like an Owner. Commercial Doesn’t.
FEB 27, 2026
Medicare Negotiates Like an Owner. Commercial Doesn’t.
In this episode of the VBCA Podcast, Alex Yarijanian sits down with Dr. Kumar Dharmarajan — co-founder and Chief Medical Officer of World Class Health and former Chief Scientific and Medical Officer at Clover Health — to unpack one of the most important structural differences in U.S. healthcare: incentive alignment.Why are employers often paying two to four times Medicare rates for identical procedures performed in the same hospital by the same physician?The answer isn’t clinical complexity. It’s incentive design.Dr. Kumar breaks down how Medicare Advantage plans negotiate as owners of financial risk — and why that matters. In contrast, much of the commercial self-insured market relies on administrators who negotiate without full downside exposure, creating a structural pricing gap.The conversation also explores:What Medicare Advantage plans are actually looking for when contracting with digital health and AI solutionsWhy engagement — not automation — is the real leverage pointThe economics of supplemental benefits and underutilized Star opportunitiesHome-based and remote care as risk containment strategiesThe future vision of standardized specialty care marketplacesThis is a structural conversation about incentives, risk ownership, and where execution truly matters in value-based care.Key TakeawaysIncentive alignment drives pricing discipline. Medicare Advantage plans negotiate differently because they own the full medical loss ratio.Commercial self-insured markets often lack that same alignment, contributing to higher negotiated rates.AI in Medicare Advantage is less about backend efficiency and more about member activation and physician-level quality improvement.Underutilized supplemental benefits represent unrealized revenue and quality movement.Home-based and remote care models are fundamentally about managing high-acuity risk, not convenience.Timestamps00:00 – Introduction01:39 – What Medicare Advantage plans actually want from AI vendors03:27 – Why engagement infrastructure is the real leverage point04:28 – Virtual care, socioeconomic complexity, and risk ownership06:18 – High-acuity members and access-driven cost escalation07:11 – Supplemental benefits and engagement economics08:36 – Stars, utilization, and revenue implications09:55 – Employers paying 2–4x Medicare rates10:27 – Why commercial pricing diverges12:17 – Incentive structure and negotiation power12:47 – Vision for standardized specialty care marketplacesAbout the GuestDr. Kumar Dharmarajan is a practicing cardiologist and geriatrician and the co-founder and Chief Medical Officer of World Class Health. He previously served as Chief Scientific and Medical Officer at Clover Health and was on faculty at Yale School of Medicine, where his research helped shape national post-acute care quality measures. He has published in the New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA, and Health Affairs.Companies mentioned in this episode:World Class HealthClover Health
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The Rural Health Transformation Fund: What States Are Funding in 2026
JAN 31, 2026
The Rural Health Transformation Fund: What States Are Funding in 2026
CMS is moving tens of billions of dollars into every state to stabilize rural healthcare heading into 2026—not through across-the-board rate increases, but through targeted investments in workforce, technology, care coordination, and alternative payment models.In this episode, Alex Yarijanian breaks down what the Rural Health Transformation Program / Rural Health Fund (RHTF) actually is, what state strategies reveal about the future of rural access, and why this matters far beyond rural hospitals—impacting payer strategy, provider contracting, network adequacy, and healthcare economics.You’ll hear key highlights from state plans including California, Texas, Florida, New York, and Illinois, plus the cross-state themes showing up everywhere: hub-and-spoke models, shared services, EMS reform, telehealth hubs, and AI-driven admin reduction (including automated fax processing).What You’ll LearnWhat the Rural Health Transformation Program actually isWhy this funding wave is different (state plans are concrete and approved)What state strategies reveal about access risk + reimbursement limitsHow payers should interpret this as a network adequacy / access signalWhy providers should see this as both opportunity + accountability shiftState Highlights CoveredCaliforniaHub-and-spoke maternal + specialty access modelsExample of rate + infrastructure working together (Health Plan of San Mateo specialty rate increases)TexasTechnology as a force multiplierAI-enabled specialty access, telehealth coordination, clinically integrated networksTech becomes a parallel lever to reimbursement in high-dispute marketsFloridaRemote patient monitoring (RPM) + community paramedicineUtilization management upstream in MA-heavy environmentsNew YorkPatient-centered medical homes + workforce pipelinesCare coordination over unit cost expansion in concentrated payer marketsIllinoisIntegrated primary + behavioral health infrastructureEMS treat-not-transport modelsAlternative models as a response to inflation vs lagging ratesKey Cross-State ThemesHub-and-spoke models are returning at scaleShared services (centralized EHR, billing, analytics) to reduce admin burdenAI as infrastructure (clinical decision support + operational efficiency)Specific AI use cases being funded:Automated fax processingAI scribesAI-enabled care coordinationKey TakeawayRural health stabilization strategy is not uniform across states — but the goal is consistent: protect access where reimbursement alone hasn’t been enough.Mentioned in this episode:Health plan of San MateoCaliforniaTexasFloridaNew YorkIllinoisOklahomaWashingtonUtahVermont
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9 MIN
Digital Health at a Crossroads: The Fallout from a $100M Adderall Fraud Scheme
NOV 26, 2025
Digital Health at a Crossroads: The Fallout from a $100M Adderall Fraud Scheme
A federal jury has convicted the founders of Done, one of the fastest-growing telehealth companies in the stimulant-prescribing space, for orchestrating one of the largest Adderall distribution and fraud schemes in U.S. history. More than 40 million stimulant pills, over $100 million in revenue, and a business model engineered around speed, volume, and automated prescribing — all built with no real clinical guardrails.In this episode, host Alex Yarijanian breaks down not only what happened, but what this case means for the entire digital health ecosystem, especially behavioral health and companies prescribing controlled substances. When a company like Done collapses — and its founders now face up to 20 years in federal prison — it doesn’t just take itself down. It drags trust, access, and payer willingness down with it.Alex outlines how this case will reshape:Payer contracting and credentialingPrescribing oversight and compliance expectationsTrust in telehealth platformsThe future of value-based behavioral healthWhy incentives — good or bad — always scaleAnd most importantly, he explains why value-based care is the antidote to the shortcuts and misaligned incentives that fueled this scandal.If you’re building, funding, regulating, or partnering with telehealth organizations, this is a must-listen.Takeaways:The case of the telehealth startup highlights the critical importance of clinical oversight in health services. Payers are likely to impose stricter regulations on telehealth providers following recent fraudulent activities. Building a sustainable healthcare model requires prioritizing patient interests over profit maximization strategies. The future of digital health will hinge on trust, necessitating alignment between clinical and business models.
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8 MIN