<p>In this episode, Jake Warner chats with Darren Shepherd, co-founder of Rancher Labs, and more recently, <a href="http://Acorn.io">Acorn.io</a>. Together, Darren and Jake, discuss the current ecosystem around container orchestration and dive into some of the flaws that exist with how applications are packaged and deployed today. -- Want to learn more? Check out <a href="https://cycle.io/">https://cycle.io/</a> Darren has spent his career writing orchestration systems, first in the IaaS space and then Docker and Kubernetes. He is best known for co-founding Rancher Labs and creating such projects as Rancher, Longhorn, k3s, and many others</p>