<p>Jerusalem Demsas is one of Cardiff’s favorite econ and housing journalists, a previous New Bazaar guest, and now the founder and editor of The Argument, a new magazine dedicated to making “a positive, combative case for liberalism through sharp, well-argued opinion pieces, original reporting, and multimedia content that confronts the illiberal drift in our politics.”&nbsp;</p><br><p>Jerusalem and Cardiff discuss:&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Her meaning of liberalism</li><li>How (if?) persuasion works&nbsp;</li><li>The politics of immigration and why it matters for the economy&nbsp;</li><li>Drawing lines vs reaching across them</li><li>If Twitter really is “acid on community”&nbsp;</li><li>How to societally deal with short-form video addiction…</li><li>… and how Jerusalem broke her own TikTok problem</li><li>Why asking if something is cringe is itself the most cringe&nbsp;</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Finally, Jerusalem makes Cardiff look and feel super old when his reference to Reality Bites flies right by her. They close by reflecting on a hopeful trend.&nbsp;</p><br><p><strong>Related links:&nbsp;</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.theargumentmag.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Argument</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Housing-Crisis-Development-Democracy-Atlantic/dp/1638931968" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">On the Housing Crisis</a> (Jerusalem’s book of essays)</li><li>Ezra Klein’s <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/28/opinion/ezra-klein-podcast-ta-nehisi-coates.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">podcast interview</a> with Ta-Nehisi Coates</li></ul><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>