Kelly Cox and Eric Mullis are a long-standing collaborative artist team who met on a ceramics field trip in high school in Madison, Wisconsin. Over decades of working together, they have produced work across five states and exhibited nationally and internationally. Their work investigates the dissonance between physical, digital, and psychic space, drawing on the mythologies of architecture, product display, and media spectacle. At the end of their residency at MING, Kelly and Eric met with Matt Bunk during a busy day at Artfort to talk trickery, collaboration, and appropriate responses to a chaotic world.