Encounter Culture

Cochiti Pueblo artist Virgil Ortiz and collaborator Eric Garcia transform the Pueblo Revolt of 1680 into a visionary story of cultural survival, reconciliation, and Indigenous futurism. In 1680, Po’pay of Ohkay Owingeh, sent messengers to the Pueblos across northern New Mexico to plan an organized attack on the Spanish colonizers. The plan worked, and together, people more than forty Pueblos, drove the Spanish out for twelve years. For Virgil Ortiz, of the Pueblo of Cochiti, this true story of the Pueblo Revolt of 1680 has been at the center of his work as an artist across the decades. In sculpture, film, textiles, and more, Virgil has made it his mission to use his art to educate others about the history of the Pueblo Revolt, its significance, and its ongoing influence. As a part of this telling and retelling, Virgil blends the history with Star Wars-inspired Indigenous futurism storytelling, both as a way to draw many different audiences in, and to imagine an Indigenous future that pulls from the strength of its history. In the latest chapter, Continuum: Blindfall, First Strike, on view at the Vladem Contemporary in Santa Fe until October 18, 2026, Virgil joins forces with friend and fellow artist Eric F. Garcia, to place Spanish conquistador history and symbolism in conversation with Po’pay and other Pueblo warriors, both past and present. Featured Guests: Virgil Ortiz Eric F. Garcia Continuum: Blindfall, First Strike exhibition at Vladem Contemporary Recommended Encounter Culture Episodes: Truth and Tragedy: The Timeless Mythology of La Llorona Recommended El Palacio Articles: The Fuel of Activism Mentioned in this episode: The Pueblo Revolt of 1680 Po’pay Herman Agoyo, sculptor from Ohkay Owingeh La Malinche (as discussed in Season 7 of Encounter Culture) Pueblo of Cochiti Art collector Robert Gallegos New Mexico School for the Arts We’d love to hear from you! Let us know what you loved about the episode, share a personal story it made you think of, or ask us a question at [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the New Mexico CulturePass. Reserve yours online! If you love New Mexico, you’ll love El Palacio Magazine! Subscribe to El Palacio today. Encounter Culture, a production of the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios. Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at El Palacio Magazine Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Edwin R. Ruiz Editor & Production Manager: Alex Riegler Associate Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: D’Santi Nava Instagram: @newmexicanculture and @elpalaciomagazine

Some of New Mexico's most prominent artists are passing traditional Nuevo Mexicano art forms like colcha embroidery, retablos and bultos, tinwork, and straw applique down to the next generation. These artists include Jean Anaya Moya, Vanessa Zamora, Vincente Telles, Arthur Lopez, Eric Romero, Vanessa Alvarado, Rhonda Crispin, and Cleo Romero. Elena Baca, education program manager at the National Hispanic Cultural Center (Albuquerque), and Jana Gottshalk, curator and director at the Nuevo Mexicano Heritage Arts Museum (Santa Fe), create spaces where these traditions stay alive and where kids can explore and express themselves freely. Discover more: National Hispanic Cultural Center Learning programming National Hispanic Cultural Center Museum Nuevo Mexicano Heritage Arts Museum ongoing programming Nuevo Mexicano Heritage Arts Museum Wonders on Wheels Read more in El Palacio: "Art and Activism at Highlands University," by Myrriah Gόmez, in Winter 2025 issue of El Palacio magazine Learn more: Traditional Spanish Market Contemporary Hispanic Market We'd love to hear from you! Let us know what you loved about the episode, share a personal story it made you think of, or ask us a question at [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the New Mexico CulturePass. Reserve yours online! If you love New Mexico, you'll love El Palacio Magazine! Subscribe to El Palacio today. Encounter Culture, a production of the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios. Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at El Palacio MagazineExecutive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Edwin R. RuizRecording Engineer: Collin Ungerleider and Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa FeEditor & Production Manager: Alex RieglerAssociate Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: D'Santi Nava Instagram: @newmexicanculture and @elpalaciomagazine

Accordions are woven into New Mexico's soundscape—at fiestas, on plazas, and in the musical storytelling traditions that travel across generations. In this episode of Encounter Culture, host Emily Withnall talks with Tony Tomei and Antonio Maestas, a master-and-apprentice duo who completed the New Mexico Arts Folk Arts Apprenticeship Program in 2024, focusing on accordion restoration and traditional New Mexico tunings. Tony and Antonio fell in love with the accordion in different decades and play different styles. Tony first encountered the accordion as a child in the 1950s, growing up in an ethnically diverse community where the instrument was central to social life. "And that was before the Beatles came in the sixties and basically wreaked havoc with the accordion and everybody switched over to the guitars," Tony laughs. Discover more: New Mexico Arts Folk Arts Apprenticeship Program New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs on YouTube Hear more on Encounter Culture: The American Mystique of the Cowboy Boot with Deana McGuffin and Jes Márquez Learn more: Hohner Albuquerque Accordion Club We'd love to hear from you! Let us know what you loved about the episode, share a personal story it made you think of, or ask us a question at [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the New Mexico CulturePass. Reserve yours online! If you love New Mexico, you'll love El Palacio Magazine! Subscribe to El Palacio today. Encounter Culture, a production of the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios. Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at El Palacio MagazineExecutive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Edwin R. RuizRecording Engineer: Collin Ungerleider and Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa FeEditor & Production Manager: Alex RieglerAssociate Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: D'Santi Nava Instagram: @newmexicanculture and @elpalaciomagazine

Photos can obscure as much as they reveal. When we encounter historic photographs, it can feel like we've entered the past through a portal. But like contemporary photographs, what is left out of the frame is as interesting and puzzling as what we can observe. Still, the donation of historic photos to any archive can only help to add to our knowledge and expand the questions we need to ask. This is certainly the case for the William Thomas Mullarky photo collection at the New Mexico History Museum's Palace of the Governors Photo Archive. The Mullarky collection has never been accessible until recently and they provide unusual and unexpected windows into 1930s Gallup, New Mexico. For the Fall 2025 issue of El Palacio, University of New Mexico professor and labor historian, David Correia, wrote an article about the Gallup Coal Wars of 1933-35. Mullarky's photos of the events in Gallup at the time accompany Correia's words. For this episode of Encounter Culture, however, Correia talks about who Mullarky was and what makes his photos so out of the ordinary. Discover more: New Mexico History Museum Palace of the Governors Photo Archive William Thomas Mullarky Photographs of the Gallup Coal War Hear more on Encounter Culture: A History of Genízaro Identity in the Heart of New Mexico with Dr. Gregorio Gonzales The Promise of a Photo with Anthropologist Robert Quintana Hopkins and Archivist Hannah Abelbeck, New Mexico History Museum Read more in El Palacio: "Strike and Struggle: The Great Gallup Coal War, 1933-35," by David Correia Fall 2025 issue of El Palacio Learn more: An Enemy Such as This: Larry Casuse and the Fight for Native Liberation in One Family on Two Continents over Three Centuries, by David Correia Edward Curtis photographs (as example of "frontier photography") Simeon Schwemberger photo collection at The University of New Mexico J.R. Willis Gallup Inter-Tribal Indian Ceremonial Center for Southwest Research at The University of New Mexico The Myth of Santa Fe, by Chris Wilson (UNM Press) *** We'd love to hear from you! Let us know what you loved about the episode, share a personal story it made you think of, or ask us a question at [email protected]. You can write a regular email or record a short voice memo and attach it for us to listen to. Visit newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the New Mexico CulturePass. Reserve yours online! If you love New Mexico, you'll love El Palacio Magazine! Subscribe to El Palacio today. Encounter Culture, a production of the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, is produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios. Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at El Palacio MagazineExecutive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Edwin R. RuizRecording Engineer: Collin Ungerleider and Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa FeEditor & Production Manager: Alex RieglerAssociate Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: D'Santi Nava Instagram: @newmexicanculture and @elpalaciomagazine

In this episode of Encounter Culture, community-led archaeology takes center stage as an alternative to extractive excavation practices of the past and a best practice rooted in respect and deeper historical understanding. At the Cañón de Carnué land grant in New Mexico, New Mexico State University has partnered with land grant heirs, as Dr. Kelly Jenks, a historical archaeologist with NMSU, discusses efforts to uncover the layered history of a community first established in 1763, revealing how Indigenous, Genízaro, and colonial peoples together shaped the region's frontier past. Discover more: Archaeology in Cañón de Carnué, New Mexico State University Cañón de Carnué land grant history New Mexico land grant history United States v. Sandoval Supreme Court decision stripping land grant rights Present-day land grant actions San Miguel del Vado land grant recovery efforts Nación Genízara: Ethnogenesis, Place, and Identity in New Mexico, edited by Moises Gonzales and Enrique R. Lamadrid Hear more on Encounter Culture: A History of Genízaro Identity in the Heart of New Mexico with Dr. Gregorio Gonzales, Encounter Culture season 6 Don't miss the upcoming issues of El Palacio - SUBSCRIBE NOW! *** We'd love to hear from you! Let us know what you loved about the episode, share a personal story it made you think of, or ask us a question at [email protected]. OR leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Visit newmexicoculture.org for info about our museums, historic sites, virtual tours, and more. Our favorite way to fully experience everything they have to offer is with the New Mexico CulturePass. Reserve yours online! *** Encounter Culture is a production of the New Mexico Department of Cultural Affairs, produced and edited by Andrea Klunder at The Creative Impostor Studios. Hosted by Emily Withnall, editor at El Palacio Magazine Executive Producer: Daniel Zillmann Technical Director & Post-Production Audio: Edwin R. Ruiz Recording Engineers: Collin Ungerleider & Kabby at Kabby Sound Studios in Santa Fe Editor & Production Manager: Alex Riegler Associate Producer & Editor: Monica Braine (Assiniboine/Lakota) Theme Music: D'Santi Nava Instagram: @newmexicanculture and @elpalaciomagazine