<p>In this episode I am once again joined by Dr. Zac Loughman of West Liberty University to discuss his work, the freshwater conservation center, and some colubrid phylogenetics! Be sure to check out his and Clint's podcast Colubrid and Colubroid Radio!</p><p></p><p>Check out Serpentine Expeditions and use code CK25 at checkout for $100 off your next herping trip!</p><p> <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.serpentineexpeditions.com/">https://www.serpentineexpeditions.com/</a></p>