In 2018, Christine Blasey Ford stood before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify in the Supreme Court nomination hearings of Brett Kavanaugh. Among the millions of people watching was perhaps the only person who could really relate: Professor Anita Hill, who’d appeared before the committee 27 years before. In this landmark episode, Professor Hill and Dr. Ford sit down for their first-ever public conversation—about their shared experiences, their emotions, their lives beyond the hearing rooms, and their hopes for the future. It’s a wide-ranging, intimate conversation between two women who are uniquely positioned to tell us what’s changed since 1991, and what has not.

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