On this one Jared and I sat down with our friend Ryan Teague from Feather and Finch Photography all the way on the Gold Coast of Australia. Ryan is one of those rare photographers who has been wildly “successful” on paper, shooting 120 plus weddings a year, and still had the courage to ask if any of it actually lined up with the life he wanted.
We talk about falling in and out of love with photography, what it does to your heart to be a dad to a son with special needs, why surfing every sunrise might be a better business plan than your current workflow, and how much more powerful your work becomes when you stop trying to impress the internet and start trying to really serve the people in front of your lens.
If you have ever looked at your own work and thought “this came too easy, is it really worth what I am charging” or felt that quiet little pull to slow down and be more present, this episode is going to hit you in the best way.
In this episode we get into:
The 120 weddings a year season
How Ryan built a fast growing brand on the Gold Coast, what it felt like when the work was almost too easy, and why that started to mess with his sense of value.
Falling out of love and finding it again
The honest side of running your own business for years, the seasons where you could not care less about picking up a camera, and the small shifts that brought him back.
Rethinking “candid” and “documentary”
Ryan talks about how couples use these words, what they actually expect on the wedding day, and how he now has very specific conversations up front so the experience matches the marketing.
Empathy first, ego second
We talk about the difference between being the entertainer at the center of the room and being the quiet presence that makes the room feel safe, and why he is willing to sacrifice a perfect frame if it means his couple stays grounded.
Meditative portraits and quiet frames
How music, stillness, and silence shape the way Ryan shoots portraits, why he chases “quiet” images, and what it looks like to invite a couple into a slower, more intentional moment on their wedding day.
Parenting, disability, and a very different true north
Ryan shares how being a dad to a ten year old with cerebral palsy and autism has completely changed his priorities and made it very hard to care about the little vanity games we all get sucked into in this industry.
Designing a slower life on purpose
Sunrise surf sessions, short office days, training, and building a rhythm that actually supports his health and his family instead of constantly demanding more from them.
Aftercast preview inside PHOTOCOIn the Aftercast for members we dig into the actual questions Ryan asks his couples, how he prepares them for a more meditative experience, and how he is thinking about storytelling over an entire wedding day as his style shifts.
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If you are new around here, the Photographic Collective Podcast is basically Jared and me sitting down with people we really respect and pulling on the threads that actually matter. Creativity, business, family, burnout, ego, money, all of it.
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Episode Description
Jared and I sat down with Jeff Chang from The Apartment and it felt like talking shop with an old friend who still wakes up excited to make pictures. We dig into how to protect the art, why composition is really about proportion, and how trust with your couples unlocks the best frames.
If you are tired of rinse and repeat, this one is a reset. PHOTOCO members get an Aftercast where Jeff lays out simple steps to last a full career without losing joy. Join us at mileswittboyer.com/photo for the Aftercast and all the perks.
Guest
Jeff Chang of The Apartment
What we cover
The artist struggle and how to keep your work fresh after nearly two decades
Composition as proportion and the bento box way to see a frame
Why connection comes first and direction works better after that
Partnership in the field and how a trusted teammate lifts everything
Burnout myths and the habits that make room for joy
Chasing trends with taste including direct flash and when to move on
Join PHOTOCO for the Aftercast with Jeff
Members get a bonus episode with Jeff’s practical roadmap for longevity, portfolio evolution, and upgrades to client experience. Grab access at mileswittboyer.com/photo and listen today.
Links
PHOTOCO membership and Aftercast access: mileswittboyer.com/photo
How we use AI to buy back time with Imagen AI: https://imagen-ai.com/?ref=mileswittboyer
Subscribe and review on Apple and Spotify
Membership info any time: mileswittboyer.com/photo
People first wins. When couples feel known, the photos breathe
Proportion matters. Let parts of the frame rest and place your subjects with intention
The right shot looks different for every couple. Build a toolkit and pivot fast
A good partner doubles your eyes and calms the room
Joy sticks around when you protect time for the art and keep the business simple
Start with connection. Take two minutes off camera and remind your couple what this day means
Guide with a steady flow. Gentle prompts keep energy up and nerves down
Build your nine pack. Three prompts for movement, three for stillness, three for close connection
Scout for proportion. Find light and lines first, then place people where the frame already sings
Tag team. If you work with a partner, trade two minute windows to chase a bold idea
The Apartment origin story and why simple names stick when they come from real life
The bento box metaphor you will never unsee
Why in person meetings book higher than Zoom and how that trust shows up in the work
The real way to avoid burnout and keep loving the craft
Welcome and why this one matters
The Apartment origin
Composition as proportion
Trust before direction
Partnership on a wedding day
Longevity and protecting the art
Aftercast invite
If this conversation fired you up, come sit with us inside PHOTOCO. The Aftercast with Jeff is loaded with step by step ideas you can put to work on your next wedding. Join now at mileswittboyer.com/photo. Bring your questions to the next live call, grab the bonus resources, and keep the momentum going.
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Jenny Day from Jenny Pearl Photography joins Miles and Jared for a conversation that hits every photographer in the sweet spot. From growing up off the grid in Montana to building a sought-after wedding brand in Utah, Jenny shares how curiosity became her greatest tool, why she refuses to live in one visual box, and how moms and new photographers can build real momentum with simple systems and brave creativity. We dig into lighting beyond golden hour, clean color and skin tones, time blocking, Patreon education, and turning imposter syndrome into a challenge that actually fuels growth. Stay to the end for the Aftercast preview where Jenny walks through starter camera settings and business basics.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN
• Curiosity as a superpower to keep your work fresh
• Lighting beyond golden hour (harsh light, shadows, uneven light)
• Composition prompts that move you past “safe” poses
• Systems that buy your time back (HoneyBook, editing flow)
• Education with receipts (monthly styled shoots, BTS, full edits)
• Mindset shifts to turn comparison into a useful challenge
• A client intake that tailors the experience to every couple
CONVERSATION HIGHLIGHTS
• Off-grid beginnings and learning tech with ChatGPT
• Variety over niche and a monthly concept engine
• Canon R5 color and skin tones, plus DSLR backup workflow
• Word of mouth + consistent Instagram as growth engines
• Editing faster and overthinking less with Imagen AI
• The exact pre-wedding questions Jenny asks to customize direction and timeline
• Managing travel, parenting, and business with time blocking
• Choosing fewer, higher-level weddings while expanding education
TACTICAL TAKEAWAYS
• Build a monthly creative theme for yourself or your community
• Schedule your brain: deep work by day, light cull/polish while you unwind
• Use a couple questionnaire to clarify direction, priorities, and style
• Practice hard lighting on low-stakes shoots so wedding-day stress drops
• Treat envy as data: reverse-engineer what you admire and train that skill
IMPORTANT LINKS
• PHOTOCO Aftercast (extended episode with Jenny’s camera settings and starter systems): join inside the Photographic Collective https://www.mileswittboyer.com/photo
• Imagen AI (Miles’s referral): https://imagen-ai.com/?ref=mileswittboyer
• Miles Witt Boyer site: https://www.mileswittboyer.com
CHAPTERS
00:00 Welcome and why Jenny’s color stops Jared in his tracks
06:40 Off-grid beginnings and learning tech with ChatGPT
15:22 Variety over niche and the monthly concept engine
23:10 Lighting in the real world
31:45 Systems for moms and makers
39:20 Tools that help: HoneyBook and Imagen
47:05 Client intake that personalizes the whole day
54:50 Turning comparison into a challenge
59:20 Aftercast preview
Love this one? Jump into the PHOTOCO Aftercast for Jenny’s step-by-step settings and starter systems, then use the Imagen link to win back your editing time. Subscribe, rate, and share with a friend who needs a creative push today.
This week's episode brought to you by IMAGEN Ai.
This week, Miles and Jared sit down with Michelle Harris, luxury destination wedding photographer, Sigma ambassador, and powerhouse educator behind M Harris Studios, Laila Chanel Studios, and the 2K+ M Harris Hustlers community.
From founding multiple brands to raising her daughters as a single mom and teaching thousands of photographers worldwide, Michelle has become a voice of confidence, community, and unapologetic hustle in an industry that often confuses success with perfection.
In this conversation, Michelle opens up about the lessons she’s learned building associate teams in D.C. and Atlanta, creating systems for sustainable growth, and redefining what “hustle” really means. You’ll hear the heart behind her education, the real story of how her Master the City workshops started, and how she built a business that genuinely serves people while raising a family.
Plus, Michelle shares practical steps for managing clients, creating emotional connection, and running consultations that book—and the mindset shifts that make it all possible.
🎧 AFTERCAST BONUS: PHOTOCO members get an exclusive session with Michelle, “How Not to Get Ghosted: How to Book Weddings During a Consultation” — available only inside the PHOTOCO membership community.
👉 Join at mileswittboyer.com/photo to unlock the Aftercast and get weekly education, resources, and coaching with Miles, Jared, and the PHOTOCO team.
Systems Over Stress: Michelle’s repeatable workflows for posing, lighting, and editing keep her creativity sharp and her brand consistent.
Education as Legacy: Teaching was never a “pivot” for her—it was a promise. She built her workshops because no one looked like her in education spaces when she began.
Scaling with Heart: How she grew two associate teams across states while maintaining personal relationships with every client and community member.
Confidence Is Contagious: Why her energy in client calls and workshops comes from genuine purpose, not performance.
The Power of Community: How the M Harris Hustlers became more than a Facebook group—it’s an ecosystem of accountability and growth.
Creative Motherhood: How being a mom fuels her work ethic and keeps her grounded.
Client Care that Converts: Her signature approach—spending real time, humanizing the process, and becoming the advocate her brides didn’t know they needed.
Southern Wedding Culture: Michelle shares how moving to Atlanta doubled her diversity in clients and gave her new perspective on style, flash, and culture in weddings.
Rest Before Risk: Learning to pause, reflect, and let her children remind her to shut the laptop once in a while.
Michelle Harris
Website: mharrisstudios.com
Instagram: @mharris_studios
Associate Brand: Laila Chanel Studios
Community: M Harris Hustlers
Education & Workshops: Master the City
PHOTOCO
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Join the PHOTOCO community to access Michelle’s full Aftercast episode, “How Not to Get Ghosted — How to Book Weddings During a Consultation.” You’ll get direct insight into her real consultation framework, pricing psychology, and the exact steps that turn conversations into bookings.
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Preston Luke went from small-town senior photographer to creator, educator, and creative director with an audience of 1M+ across Instagram and TikTok. In this conversation, Preston breaks down the practical steps behind turning your photo brand into a creator business—while staying sane and protecting your love for the craft.
We cover:
The photographer → creator pivot (and why he paused client work to open new doors)
Content systems, editing help, and posting cadence that fueled rapid growth
Pitching and delivering for brand partners (Nikon, Adobe, SanDisk, Best Buy)
Building a business that goes beyond sessions: presets, workshops, and Slate Studios
The senior-model team engine he built across 30+ school districts
Mental health, a 250-lb weight-loss journey, and taking a strategic break when growth got heavy
Confidence vs. imposter syndrome (and why “showing up” as the brand matters)
🎧 Stick around to the end for how Preston prices seniors at the high end, the full year-round senior playbook, and why delayed posting keeps him present on shoots.
💬 AFTERCAST: Members get Preston’s tactical deep-dive on building a luxury senior offer, annual calendar, and pricing strategy. Join PHOTOCO below.
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Hosted by Miles Witt Boyer & Jared Mark Fincher on the Photographic Collective Podcast.
Preston Luke
Website: prestonluke.com Preston Luke
Instagram: @iamprestonluke Instagram
Presets (Desktop & Mobile bundle): prestonluke.com/shop/p/preston-luke-presets-desktop-mobile Preston Luke
Desktop Presets (individual): prestonluke.com/shop/p/preston-luke-desktop-presets Preston Luke
Events / Workshops: prestonluke.com/events-1 Preston Luke
“Club Content” workshop preview (IG): instagram.com/p/C3-e2Z1OkuE/ Instagram
Slate Studios (Preston’s all-white natural-light space)
Instagram: @sl8studios Instagram
Booking (via IG bio link): slatestudios.as.me (linked from @sl8studios bio) Instagram
Why “SLATE” (origin story reel): instagram.com/p/C_RfxrBsYpW/ Instagram
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