The Autonomous Creative
The Autonomous Creative

The Autonomous Creative

Jessica Abel

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What does it take to become a successful writer or artist? Go behind the scenes with amazing professional creatives in a wide variety of fields to find out what, exactly, it took for them to be able to quit the day job and build a creative career fully committed to the work they're most passionate about.As a creative yourself, you know that whenever two artists or writers get together, inevitably the conversation turns to, “No, but seriously, how do you do it?”This show is that conversation. And you’re invited.

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How to build a self-sustaining creative practice without forced-march “productivity” culture (with Matt Griffin and Shelley Evans).mp3
SEP 28, 2025
How to build a self-sustaining creative practice without forced-march “productivity” culture (with Matt Griffin and Shelley Evans).mp3
“My goal isn’t to win the hours. I want to be present.” — Shelley EvansWhen a “good career” starts to feel like a bad relationship, walking away is just the start. After you escape the grind, you realize the grind is YOU, and the work has just begun. Shelley and Matt share how crisis-mode and productivity hacks kept them reactive—and what changed when they chose a self‑sustaining creative practice over the fool’s gold of trying to do it all, all at once.In this open, honest discussion, we look at why mainstream productivity culture fails creative people—and what actually works instead.Shelley describes realizing her Hollywood career was akin to an “abusive spouse”. After she chose to step away to write her novel, her biggest achievement wasn’t logging more hours, it was moving from punishing deadlines to presence, using “marbles in a jar” to measure engaged time and pulling the Creative Focus Workshop “ripcord” to recenter herself when she got off track.Matt shares how 100-hour weeks in tech and spinning in endless “preparation” felt productive but in fact kept him from writing. When he (finally!) chose a single project, he created steadiness and progress he could trust.We talk about “finish and ship” as the foundation of art as communication, why the Motion AI calendar that postponed lunch until April is the clearest sign yet that productivity hacking is a dead end, and how short, ten‑minute sessions beat perfectionism because you discover better questions once you’re in motion.If you’re stuck in reactive mode, or drowning in “optimizing,” this conversation gives you simple, human practices to return to your work and keep going.Why “crisis‑competence” isn’t a creative practiceThe exact moment Shelley realized the Hollywood grind was “an abusive spouse,”How “marbles in a jar” beats self‑punishment when you’re stuckWhen to pull the ripcord and return to Creative Focus“Finish and ship” as the completion of an act of creative communicationThe fine line between useful tooling/worldbuilding and sophisticated procrastination“I teach productivity, but I hate ‘productivity’” — e.g. the Motion AI calendar that tried to schedule lunch in April.The value of ten‑minute sessions over painstaking perfectionYour Next StepIf you’re ready to swap punishment for presence with your creative work, and actually finish, watch the free Creative Engine workshop. Master the 4 simple steps to finishing your dream creative projects!GuestsShelley Evans is a screenwriter and teacher (Harvard Extension School) whose credits include ABC, CBS, Showtime, USA, Hallmark, and Lifetime. She’s now focused on her novel and on building a sustainable, presence‑based creative practice.Matt Griffin is a writer, adjunct professor (NYU IDM/ITP), conference producer (NarraScope 2025), consultant, 3D printing and biofabrication expert (MakerBot/Ultimaker). He’s currently writing an interactive novel for Choice of Games.Links and resourcesThe Creative Focus Workshop (CFW)The Creative Engine class: 4 Simple Steps to Finish Your Dream Creative Projects (Live Oct 9; replay after)Choice of Games
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53 MIN
From designer to course creator (without a huge audience): Marie Poulin's journey to Notion Mastery
JUL 29, 2025
From designer to course creator (without a huge audience): Marie Poulin's journey to Notion Mastery
What happens when you follow your curiosity down an unexpected rabbit hole…and it leads to massive business success? Marie Poulin started as a freelance designer, but her obsession with systems thinking and digital organization evolved into something much bigger. In this candid conversation, she reveals how a side project teaching Notion exploded into a thriving business, and the hard choices and major pivots it took to get there. For anyone who's ever wondered if their niche fascination could become their whole career, this is a must-listen episode.More from the episodeThe lucky break that taught Marie everything about running a creative business“Just because you can doesn't mean you should”: How Marie learned to stop being everything to everyone“What have I done?”: How Marie navigated the shock of transitioning from client work to course creationThe unexpected way Marie still leans on the Ideal Week calendar that went viral in 2017The super-simple “living room strategy” Marie used to sell her course before she built a thingThe surprising connection Marie makes between permaculture and business systemsThe hidden danger of building a business around someone else's software (and Marie's clever strategy to future-proof her work)Why being multi-passionate can be a superpower—if you know how to harness itAbout Marie PoulinMarie Poulin is a designer, systems thinker, and co-founder of Oki Doki. She's the creator of Notion Mastery, a course and community that helps entrepreneurs and small teams build sustainable, customized systems for work and life. Through her work, Marie helps people rethink how they work, from workflow to knowledge management, focusing on building more human and neurodivergent-friendly ways of organizing digital lives.Connect with Marie PoulinFind Marie on Blue Sky @MariePoulinYouTube: @mariepoulinWebsite: notionmastery.comCompany website: weareokidoki.com
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47 MIN
How to find clients and build your audience without relying on social media, with Meg Casebolt
JAN 11, 2024
How to find clients and build your audience without relying on social media, with Meg Casebolt
What happens to your business when you take an extended break from social media? Will it fall apart? Wither on the vine? What if the answer is…not much? Meg Casebolt is an SEO expert and the founder of Love at First Search, an agency that helps online businesses get found in search results, and to turn new readers into leads, subscribers and sales. Meg’s business used to be super active on social media, until a few years ago when she took a 100-day social media break. Kind of by accident. That’s when Meg discovered that even though social media had been taking up a ton of her time, it wasn’t contributing much to her sales. In this episode, we discuss Meg’s new book, Social Slowdown, which examines the intersection of entrepreneurship, social media, and mental health, and explore creative new ways to engage with your audience and find clients without relying on social media. More from the episode Meg explains the difference between social media and SEO. (As well as answering the question, what is SEO, actually?) Brownies vs. Painkillers: How to determine what problem your work solves. The pro and cons of using social media for your marketing. How to set healthy boundaries around your social media usage. What are some effective networking strategies for introverts? About Guest Meg Casebolt is a digital marketing strategist, SEO specialist, boy mom, productivity nerd, and bibliophile. Meg’s been helping business owners create beautiful, search-friendly websites and strategic content for the past 6 years. Connect with Guest https://loveatfirstsearch.com/ Additional Links https://www.socialslowdown.com/ Social Slowdown: Take a social media break,... by Casebolt, Meg (amazon.com)
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55 MIN
How to quit undercharging for your work, with Rauni Higson
DEC 8, 2023
How to quit undercharging for your work, with Rauni Higson
Do you struggle to figure out how to price your work so that it’s actually profitable for you…and then to actually say that price out loud, without mumbling or undercutting yourself? Do you find yourself rushing to offer a discount BEFORE anyone even asks? On this episode, I’m joined by Rauni Higson, one of Britain’s leading silversmiths. When I first met Rauni, she was chronically undercharging for her work, experiencing major feast or famine cycles, and generally running herself ragged teaching and taking on low-end work. Discover how Rauni learned to price her work for a profit, and effectively communicate the value of her work to clients without feeling like she had to put on airs. And how that higher pricing helped her break the cycle of needing to fill her income gap by taking on tons of other low-margin work. More from the episode How pricing your work goes beyond numbers, and plays a crucial role in helping people truly appreciate your work How having the words to talk about your work unlocks your ability to have fun connecting with clients The key differences between selling a product-based offer vs. a service offer Why we should “stay out of other people's wallets,” and what ethical practice and consent during the sales process looks like The power of networking with fellow creatives and nurturing relationships with past clients How to say “no” to commissions…for any reason About Guest Rauni Higson is one of Britain’s leading silversmiths. Originally trained in Finland, her studio is located in the dramatic landscape of Snowdonia, a rich backdrop of mountainous crags and rugged coastline that inform her work. All her pieces are made by hand and by hammer, using her contemporary interpretation of traditional skills. Connect with Guest Home - Rauni Higson Additional Links Jessica Abel on Creative Mornings How to find (and actually talk to) your ideal clients, with Sarah Marie Lacy - Jessica Abel
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57 MIN