<p>In episode 81, Chris and Emma mark four years of the podcast with a candid look at what’s changed—in themselves, their work, and their relationship to the theory.</p><p>Both faced challenges this year, and both noticed something striking: they handled it differently than they would have before. The theory has become a real-time companion rather than a post-mortem tool—dynamisms catching in the moment instead of being identified after the fact.</p><p>They discuss:</p><p>* The shift from analyzing crises afterward to navigating them as they unfold</p><p>* How relational resilience and genuine listening matter (with gratitude to <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/7797698-bee-mayhew">bee mayhew</a> )</p><p>* What they’d do differently—never saying levels, prioritizing lived experience over expertise, better audio equipment</p><p>* Plans for 2026: more episodes featuring just the two of them, deeper dives into lived experience</p><p>* An announcement: they’re stepping away from the Dabrowski Congress to take a new direction</p><p>The episode ends where the theory always points: shedding what’s less like us and moving toward greater autonomy.</p><p><strong><em>Resources from this episode</em></strong></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/p47KJiBi-IQ">Dabrowski 101</a> (YouTube)</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.positivedisintegration.org/p/autoethnography-for-personal-growth">Ep. 56: Autoethnography for Personal Growth</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.positivedisintegration.org/p/healing-through-writing">Ep. 72, Healing through Writing</a> with Dr. Lil Jedynak (<a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/232271539-the-gifted-experience">The Gifted Experience</a>) </p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://cosmiccheersquad.substack.com/">cosmic cheer squad</a> podcast</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://pdapodcast.substack.com/">PDA: Resistance and Resilience</a> podcast</p><p><strong><em>Connect with us</em></strong></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="http://www.positivedisintegration.org/">Positive Disintegration on Substack</a></p><p>* Visit the <a target="_blank" href="https://dabrowskicenter.org/">Dabrowski Center website</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/positivedisintegrationpod">Facebook</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.instagram.com/positivedisintegration_podcast/">Instagram</a></p><p>* The Positive Disintegration <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/@positivedisintegrationpodc401">YouTube Channel</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/424880678836389">Adults with Overexcitabilities</a> group on Facebook</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tragicgift.com/">The Tragic Gift blog</a> by Emma</p><p>* Email us at [email protected]</p><p>* Please consider donating to the <a target="_blank" href="https://dabrowskicenter.org/">Dabrowski Center</a>, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit.</p><p>* Find <a target="_blank" href="https://www.bonfire.com/store/dabrowski-center/">Positive Disintegration Merch</a></p><p>If you enjoyed this episode on <a target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/positive-disintegration-podcast/id1588576001">Apple</a> or <a target="_blank" href="https://spotify.link/vrfAiQIbFDb">Spotify</a>, please remember to click on the stars and leave a rating or write a review. Thank you!</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://www.positivedisintegration.org/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_2">www.positivedisintegration.org/subscribe</a>