Skip the banter: 00:07:41 In 2014, Russell and Shirley Dermond were living out their retirement in a quiet lakeside community—until neighbors made a discovery that would shake the entire area. What followed was a case marked by contradictions, clean surfaces, and missing evidence. Allison brings the full context, including one detail that was easy to miss at the time. Support us and become a Patron! Over 150 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple   Our Amazon Shop (stuff we like that we share on the show): https://www.amazon.com/shop/crimeandcoffee2 All our links (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Merch, etc): https://linktr.ee/crimeandcoffee Facebook Group to discuss episodes: www.facebook.com/groups/crimeandcoffeecouplepodcast/ References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs. Case Suggestions Form: https://forms.gle/RQbthyDvd98SGpVq8   Remember to subscribe to our podcast in your favorite podcast player. Do it before you forget!   If you're listening on Spotify please leave us a 5-star review, and leave a comment on today's episode!   If you're on an iPhone, review us on Apple Podcasts please! Scroll to the bottom of the page and hit the stars ;)   Ma and Pa appreciate you more than you know.   Reminder: Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple   Podcast Intro and Outro music: Seductress Dubstep or TrippinCoffee by Audionautix http://audionautix.com Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.