Well, here we are—for the last time, for now. A couple weeks ago, I wrote an end-of-year letter that functioned like a little “status update” on how I’m feeling moving into 2026. In this episode, I invite back five of my favorite guests for their own check-ins. We talk about:
<ul>
 <li>
What it feels like to finally pull the “F.I.” rip cord (and whether it “works”)
</li>
 <li>
How money changes relationships, and vice versa
</li>
 <li>
Marriage between entrepreneurs
</li>
 <li>
An economic diagnosis of our present moment 
</li>
 <li>
Things we’ve changed our minds about in 2025
</li>
</ul>
This felt like the most fitting possible capstone for the year and this chapter of the show. Thank you for tuning in week after week; thank you for being along for the ride as this show has evolved over the years and as I have evolved over the years; thank you for arguing with me in good faith and expanding my worldview; thank you for engaging with this show so earnestly and consistently. Until next time!
 
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<description>Well, here we are—for the last time, for now. A couple weeks ago, I wrote an end-of-year letter that functioned like a little “status update” on how I’m feeling moving into 2026. In this episode, I invite back five of my favorite guests for their own check-ins. We talk about:


 
What it feels like to finally pull the “F.I.” rip cord (and whether it “works”)



 
How money changes relationships, and vice versa



 
Marriage between entrepreneurs



 
An economic diagnosis of our present moment 



 
Things we’ve changed our minds about in 2025




This felt like the most fitting possible capstone for the year and this chapter of the show. Thank you for tuning in week after week; thank you for being along for the ride as this show has evolved over the years and as I have evolved over the years; thank you for arguing with me in good faith and expanding my worldview; thank you for engaging with this show so earnestly and consistently. Until next time!



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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/curtain-call/ 

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A final check-in with your favorite guests.

Well, here we are—for the last time, for now. A couple weeks ago, I wrote an end-of-year letter that functioned like a little “status update” on how I’m feeling moving into 2026. In this episode, I invite back five of my favorite guests for their own check-ins. We talk about:


  
What it feels like to finally pull the “F.I.” rip cord (and whether it “works”)



  
How money changes relationships, and vice versa



  
Marriage between entrepreneurs



  
An economic diagnosis of our present moment 



  
Things we’ve changed our minds about in 2025




This felt like the most fitting possible capstone for the year and this chapter of the show. Thank you for tuning in week after week; thank you for being along for the ride as this show has evolved over the years and as I have evolved over the years; thank you for arguing with me in good faith and expanding my worldview; thank you for engaging with this show so earnestly and consistently. Until next time!



Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/curtain-call/ 

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Curtain Call: All Stars Return to Talk Financial Independence, Fear, and Growth

Today’s guest won’t surprise you if you read <a href="https://newsletter.moneywithkatie.com/issues/special-issue-an-excerpt-from-rich-girl-nation">the introduction</a> to Rich Girl Nation, which recollected the 2018 event that made me think personal finance might not be solely for people with brown bananas and pocket protectors. Lindsey Stanberry, founding editor of Refinery29’s Money Diaries turned media entrepreneur, joins me for the penultimate episode to talk about:
<ul>
 <li>Why most conversations about money are really about time</li>
 <li>What she learned about our culture from monitoring the Money Diaries comments section</li>
 <li>Leaving a job, even when it means sacrificing financial security for emotional security</li>
 <li>What’s really driving our “obsession with FI/RE”</li>
 <li>The dark side of optimization</li>
</ul>
 
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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: <a href="https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/lindsey-stanberry-judge-hide-admit/">https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/lindsey-stanberry-judge-hide-admit/</a>
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<description>Today’s guest won’t surprise you if you read the introduction to Rich Girl Nation, which recollected the 2018 event that made me think personal finance might not be solely for people with brown bananas and pocket protectors. Lindsey Stanberry, founding editor of Refinery29’s Money Diaries turned media entrepreneur, joins me for the penultimate episode to talk about:


 Why most conversations about money are really about time

 What she learned about our culture from monitoring the Money Diaries comments section

 Leaving a job, even when it means sacrificing financial security for emotional security

 What’s really driving our “obsession with FI/RE”

 The dark side of optimization




Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes &amp; Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/lindsey-stanberry-judge-hide-admit/

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A conversation with Lindsey Stanberry.

Today’s guest won’t surprise you if you read the introduction to Rich Girl Nation, which recollected the 2018 event that made me think personal finance might not be solely for people with brown bananas and pocket protectors. Lindsey Stanberry, founding editor of Refinery29’s Money Diaries turned media entrepreneur, joins me for the penultimate episode to talk about:


  Why most conversations about money are really about time

  What she learned about our culture from monitoring the Money Diaries comments section

  Leaving a job, even when it means sacrificing financial security for emotional security

  What’s really driving our “obsession with FI/RE”

  The dark side of optimization




Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes & Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/lindsey-stanberry-judge-hide-admit/

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Why We Judge Women’s Spending, What We Hide, & What We’re Afraid to Admit

Rebecca Herbst reached financial independence at age 32 during the tenuous early days of the pandemic, and volunteered shortly thereafter to be furloughed from her job in commercial real estate—and so began her (extremely) early retirement. 
But spending her days exactly as she wanted featured an unexpected side effect: guilt. What do you owe to others when you’ve gotten everything you wanted? Rebecca alchemized her sense of duty and founded Yield &amp; Spread. In detail, we cover:
<ul>
 <li>What the “FI-lanthropy” pledge entails</li>
 <li>How she squares the desire to retire early with the idea of “hoarding money”</li>
 <li>Where Rebecca gives for the highest impact</li>
 <li>Who donor-advised funds might make sense for, and how they work</li>
 <li>How to donate appreciated stock, and why it might be  preferable to giving cash</li>
</ul>
 
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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: <a href="https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/the-filanthropy-pledge/">https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/the-filanthropy-pledge/ </a>
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<description>Rebecca Herbst reached financial independence at age 32 during the tenuous early days of the pandemic, and volunteered shortly thereafter to be furloughed from her job in commercial real estate—and so began her (extremely) early retirement. 

But spending her days exactly as she wanted featured an unexpected side effect: guilt. What do you owe to others when you’ve gotten everything you wanted? Rebecca alchemized her sense of duty and founded Yield &amp; Spread. In detail, we cover:


 What the “FI-lanthropy” pledge entails

 How she squares the desire to retire early with the idea of “hoarding money”

 Where Rebecca gives for the highest impact

 Who donor-advised funds might make sense for, and how they work

 How to donate appreciated stock, and why it might be  preferable to giving cash




Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes &amp; Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/the-filanthropy-pledge/ 

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A conversation with the founder of Yield & Spread, Rebecca Herbst.

Rebecca Herbst reached financial independence at age 32 during the tenuous early days of the pandemic, and volunteered shortly thereafter to be furloughed from her job in commercial real estate—and so began her (extremely) early retirement. 

But spending her days exactly as she wanted featured an unexpected side effect: guilt. What do you owe to others when you’ve gotten everything you wanted? Rebecca alchemized her sense of duty and founded Yield & Spread. In detail, we cover:


  What the “FI-lanthropy” pledge entails

  How she squares the desire to retire early with the idea of “hoarding money”

  Where Rebecca gives for the highest impact

  Who donor-advised funds might make sense for, and how they work

  How to donate appreciated stock, and why it might be  preferable to giving cash




Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/the-filanthropy-pledge/ 

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She Retired at 32. Then Came Guilt—and a Moral Crossroads.

How do you solve a problem like the disconnect between “wages employers are willing to pay” and “wages employees need to survive”? If you’re my guest this week, the answer is: a wage subsidy. 
Today on the show, I speak with Ben Glasner, an economist with a PhD in public policy and management in search of answers for how to build a fairer economy, about the benefit proposal that he says has two very critical things most proposals of this nature lack: efficient targeting and bipartisan support. We discuss:
<ul>
 <li>The significance of the fact that 21 million Americans earn less than $16 per hour, and two-thirds of those workers are women</li>
 <li>Why other attempts at incentivizing job creation are expensive ($100,000–$200,000 per job) and poorly targeted</li>
 <li>The target wage and proposed funding structure that Ben and his coauthor believe will minimize or eliminate fraud and make small business hiring more competitive</li>
</ul>
 
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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: <a href="https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/end-low-wage-work-forever/">https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/end-low-wage-work-forever/</a>.
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<description>How do you solve a problem like the disconnect between “wages employers are willing to pay” and “wages employees need to survive”? If you’re my guest this week, the answer is: a wage subsidy. 

Today on the show, I speak with Ben Glasner, an economist with a PhD in public policy and management in search of answers for how to build a fairer economy, about the benefit proposal that he says has two very critical things most proposals of this nature lack: efficient targeting and bipartisan support. We discuss:


 The significance of the fact that 21 million Americans earn less than $16 per hour, and two-thirds of those workers are women

 Why other attempts at incentivizing job creation are expensive ($100,000–$200,000 per job) and poorly targeted

 The target wage and proposed funding structure that Ben and his coauthor believe will minimize or eliminate fraud and make small business hiring more competitive




Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes &amp; Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/end-low-wage-work-forever/.

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A conversation with economist Ben Glasner.

How do you solve a problem like the disconnect between “wages employers are willing to pay” and “wages employees need to survive”? If you’re my guest this week, the answer is: a wage subsidy. 

Today on the show, I speak with Ben Glasner, an economist with a PhD in public policy and management in search of answers for how to build a fairer economy, about the benefit proposal that he says has two very critical things most proposals of this nature lack: efficient targeting and bipartisan support. We discuss:


  The significance of the fact that 21 million Americans earn less than $16 per hour, and two-thirds of those workers are women

  Why other attempts at incentivizing job creation are expensive ($100,000–$200,000 per job) and poorly targeted

  The target wage and proposed funding structure that Ben and his coauthor believe will minimize or eliminate fraud and make small business hiring more competitive




Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes & Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: https://moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/end-low-wage-work-forever/.

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How to End Low Wage Work—Forever

Since I spent last week’s episode detailing the thrilling ins and outs of making your own 2026 financial plan for wealth-maxxing, today I’m taking a hard left turn and interviewing Andrew Hartman, a history professor and the author of Karl Marx in America, a 500-page tome about which he says, and here I quote directly, “My father-in-law told me that he likes the book even though he still doesn’t like Marx.” We talked about:
<ul>
 <li>The limitations of theories from the founding Enlightenment thinkbois like Adam Smith, John Locke, and Thomas Paine, which mostly pre-dated industrial capitalism</li>
 <li>The "gospel of success" as an anesthetic for an uproarious working class who did not go gently from their farms into factories</li>
 <li>A surprising role for corporations, which have—ironically—done more to "socialize production" than any other modern entity</li>
 <li>The trap of thinking about class as an "identity," rather than a relationship</li>
 <li>How wealth inequality creates speculative markets and bubbles</li>
</ul>
Sign up for the December 3 D.I.Y. class and see the Wealth Planner System's new features: <a href="https://moneywithkatie.myflodesk.com/mwk-2026-planning-party">⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.myflodesk.com/mwk-2026-planning-party⁠⁠</a> 
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Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: <a href="%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0https://www.moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/freedom-capitalism-missing-revolution">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/freedom-capitalism-missing-revolution</a>⁠⁠.
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<description>Since I spent last week’s episode detailing the thrilling ins and outs of making your own 2026 financial plan for wealth-maxxing, today I’m taking a hard left turn and interviewing Andrew Hartman, a history professor and the author of Karl Marx in America, a 500-page tome about which he says, and here I quote directly, “My father-in-law told me that he likes the book even though he still doesn’t like Marx.” We talked about:


 The limitations of theories from the founding Enlightenment thinkbois like Adam Smith, John Locke, and Thomas Paine, which mostly pre-dated industrial capitalism

 The "gospel of success" as an anesthetic for an uproarious working class who did not go gently from their farms into factories

 A surprising role for corporations, which have—ironically—done more to "socialize production" than any other modern entity

 The trap of thinking about class as an "identity," rather than a relationship

 How wealth inequality creates speculative markets and bubbles


Sign up for the December 3 D.I.Y. class and see the Wealth Planner System's new features: ⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.myflodesk.com/mwk-2026-planning-party⁠⁠ 

Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes &amp; Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/freedom-capitalism-missing-revolution⁠⁠.

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A conversation with history professor Andrew Hartman.

Since I spent last week’s episode detailing the thrilling ins and outs of making your own 2026 financial plan for wealth-maxxing, today I’m taking a hard left turn and interviewing Andrew Hartman, a history professor and the author of Karl Marx in America, a 500-page tome about which he says, and here I quote directly, “My father-in-law told me that he likes the book even though he still doesn’t like Marx.” We talked about:


  The limitations of theories from the founding Enlightenment thinkbois like Adam Smith, John Locke, and Thomas Paine, which mostly pre-dated industrial capitalism

  The "gospel of success" as an anesthetic for an uproarious working class who did not go gently from their farms into factories

  A surprising role for corporations, which have—ironically—done more to "socialize production" than any other modern entity

  The trap of thinking about class as an "identity," rather than a relationship

  How wealth inequality creates speculative markets and bubbles


Sign up for the December 3 D.I.Y. class and see the Wealth Planner System's new features: ⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.myflodesk.com/mwk-2026-planning-party⁠⁠ 

Subscribe to my weekly newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://moneywithkatie.com/newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get your copy of Rich Girl Nation, one of Barnes & Noble's Best Business Books of 2025:⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcripts, show notes, resources, and credits at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.moneywithkatie.com/the_mwk_show/freedom-capitalism-missing-revolution⁠⁠.

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Freedom, Capitalism, and America's Missing Revolution

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