Into The Multiverse Podcast

Recorded from her new home in Austin, Texas, our host Alli Schaper is joined by her mother, Linda, and her aunt, Barb, for a deeply personal conversation exploring their family’s extraordinary journey to motherhood. In this returning guest episode, they revisit the miraculous story of how Alli and her two siblings were born as triplets from two different mothers, in two different years, and in two different cities.Together, they reflect on the resilience, sacrifice, and groundbreaking medical innovation that made their family possible after more than a decade marked by infertility, heartbreak, and loss.In this episode, Alli, Linda, and Barb explore:A Seven-Year Infertility Journey: Linda shares the heartbreak of being told she may never conceive, enduring adoption denials, and experiencing multiple pregnancy losses before finding a path forward.The Power of Sisterhood: Barb reflects on the calling that led her to become a surrogate for her sister after years of witnessing her pain.A First-of-Its-Kind IVF Story: The family reflects on the groundbreaking decision to transfer the same cycle of embryos into two sisters simultaneously, a medical first that helped make their extraordinary story possible.Raising a Story Rooted in Love: From the beginning, the family chose openness, ensuring the children always understood the unique story of their birth.As they reflect on this 32-year journey, the conversation becomes a powerful reminder that motherhood can take many forms and how love, resilience, and devotion can shape a family in extraordinary ways.

Recorded live from Antarctica, psychedelic attorney Joshua Kappel joins host Alli Schaper to explore the rapidly unfolding frontier of psychedelic policy in the United States. With nearly two decades in drug policy reform, Josh shares his journey from helping draft Denver’s first psilocybin decriminalization initiative to co-authoring Colorado’s Natural Medicine Health Act, helping create a more regulated path for psychedelic healing while easing restrictions around personal use.Together, they explore the space where underground culture meets formal regulation, and what it takes to translate lived experience into policy that actually works.Alli and Josh get into:Three Pathways of Reform: From federal pharmaceutical routes to state-regulated models and local decriminalization, a look at how change is unfolding across systems.The Rise of Microdosing: As low-dose use becomes more common, policy is still catching up to how people are actually engaging with these medicines.A New Model in New York: Early insights into a proposed permit system that could allow safe, at-home access to tested, low-dose psychedelics through education.Story as Catalyst: How real stories from veterans, first responders, and families are shaping the momentum behind reform.From Citizen Science to Clinical Trials: Why real-world data is playing such a big role in informing research and what comes next.As this next wave of reform takes shape, the conversation comes back to how we balance access, safety, and integrity while honoring the communities that have carried this work forward.—TIMESTAMPS0:36 Introduction1:10 Welcoming Psychedelic Attorney Josh Kappel1:46 Josh’s Path Into Psychedelic Law and Advocacy3:50 The Current State of Psychedelic Policy in the U.S.11:04 Building the Microdosing Collective and Policy That Reflects Real-World Use19:12 Storytelling as a Catalyst for Policy Change23:31 How Culture Shapes the Future of Mental Health Policy28:22 Honoring the Cultural Origins of These Medicines31:18 Josh’s Most Important Lesson From Psychedelics—Josh Kappel: https://www.instagram.com/thepsychedeliclawyer—Step into the Multiverse with us...Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements.Use Code: ITM15 for 15% offInto the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/

Recorded on a boat to Antarctica, New York Times bestselling author Norman Ohler joins us for a conversation that challenges how we understand history, consciousness, and the hidden forces shaping human evolution.Known for his deep archival research and provocative storytelling, Ohler explores the often-overlooked role of psychoactive substances in shaping major historical events, from the inner workings of the Nazi regime to the broader evolution of human awareness. He also offers a first look into his upcoming work, Stoned Sapiens, where he proposes a new lens on how molecules may have influenced the development of the human brain and our survival as a species.Together, Norman and Alli explore:- Rewriting History: Insights from Blitzed and what widespread drug use reveals about power, control, and decision-making at the highest levels.- The Origins of Consciousness: A new perspective on how psychoactive compounds may have contributed to the development of the human mind.- Drugs & Empire: The overlooked role of substances in shaping global systems, including the opium trade and colonial expansion.- Literature as Disruption: Why storytelling can shift perception and act as a powerful political force.- Healing & Psychedelics: A personal look at Ohler’s exploration of LSD and its potential in treating neurodegenerative conditions, and how it reshaped his own understanding of medicine and care.This episode invites you to question what you think you know about history, and consider how chemistry, culture, and consciousness may be more deeply intertwined than we realize.--TIMESTAMPS:0:40 Podcast Introduction1:10 Welcoming Norman Ohler1:39 Writing as a Political Act of Transformation6:25 Evolution Through "Stoned Sapiens"7:50 Uncovering the Archives: Substance Use in Nazi Germany15:10 Consciousness Modes: Connection vs. Survival18:32 The Alchemy and Energy of Chemical Compounds19:47 Historical Perspectives through the Lens of Consciousness24:27 Colonialism, Queen Victoria, and the Global Drug Trade30:03 Family Healing and Redefining Psychedelic Medicine33:40 Complexity and Tolerance: Personal Reflections34:50 Publishing the Planetary Narrative35:40 The Ultimate Lesson: Learning to Open the Heart--Norman Ohler: https://www.instagram.com/normanohlerRead Norman’s Work on Substack: https://stonedsapiens.substack.com/--Step into the Multiverse with us...Shop Supermush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements.Use Code: ITM15 for 15% offInto the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/

Recorded while cruising through the icy, surreal landscape of Antarctica, Psychiatrist Dr. Rachel Yehuda, a pioneering researcher of intergenerational trauma and Director of The Parsons Research Center for Psychedelic Healing at Mount Sinai, joins Alli Schaper, Founder of SuperMush, for a deep dive into the invisible threads connecting us to our past.Rachel shares the unexpected beginnings of her groundbreaking research with Holocaust survivors and their children, revealing how trauma can echo across generations, not just in our stories but in our biology. She reminds us that the history we carry shapes us, but it doesn’t have to define us.Together, Rachel and Alli dive into:The Science of Survival: How epigenetics helps explain why trauma “sticks,” and how inherited stress responses may be adaptive signals from the past.Psychedelics & Memory: Why altered states can help us safely revisit “filed away” memories and reshape them into stories of resilience.Grief & Transformation: Alli shares a personal story about her mother’s psilocybin journey, opening a heartfelt conversation about metabolizing grief and rethinking our relationship with death.A New Mental Health Paradigm: Rachel’s vision for moving beyond symptom management toward deeper healing through altered states, insight, and human connection.And so mush more!--TIMESTAMPS:0:54 Podcast Intro1:23 Introducing Dr. Rachel Yehuda and Her Research3:05 Rachel’s Research Origins: Studying Trauma in Holocaust Survivors and Their Children8:11 Intergenerational Transmission: Applying Science to Ancient Wisdom14:40 The Role of Psychedelics in Healing Intergenerational Trauma17:20 "Finding" Memories: How Psychedelics Aid in Processing the Past21:20 Alli’s Personal Story: Using Psilocybin to Process the Concept of Death23:40 Metabolizing Loss: How Psychedelic Therapy Helps Navigate Grief29:25 Deep Dive into Biological Markers and Future Research Methods33:15 Shifting the Mental Health Paradigm: A Vision for Psychedelics and Humanity40:05 Beyond Suppression: The Future of Mental Health Care and Healing43:52 Embracing Nonlinear Healing and the Value of the "Altered State"46:20 Lessons from Psychedelics: Connection and the Power of Hope--Dr. Rachel Yehuda: https://www.instagram.com/rachelyehudaphd/ --Step into the Multiverse with us...Shop SuperMush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements.Use Code: ITM15 for 15% offInto the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/SuperMush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/supermush/

Recorded on a rocky boat trip through Antarctica, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, Canadian wellness advocate, author, and former unofficial First Lady of Canada, joins Alli Schaper (co-founder of SuperMush and host of the Into the Multiverse podcast) for an intimate conversation exploring human connection, safety, belonging, and living authentically.Sophie opens up about her journey writing Closer Together, Knowing Ourselves, Loving Each Other, including her struggles with eating disorders and insights from her time as Canada’s unofficial first lady. The conversation also explores how tears, playfulness, and humor serve as tools for healing, how depression and blame can be manipulated to divide people, and how tools like somatic practices, psychedelics, and yoga can restore empathy, joy, and creative flow.Sophie also shares upcoming projects, including free yoga and meditation offerings and a virtual workshop with Dr. Gabor Maté.—TIMESTAMPS:0:00 Intro1:14 Meet Sophie Grégoire Trudeau3:36 The Purpose of Sophie’s book, Closer Together6:52 Reflections on Authenticity, Aging & Her Younger Self15:34 Qualities of Safe People and Cultivating Safe Relationships22:00 Balancing Power & Softness and Embracing Polarity Within Yourself30:10 Exploring Healing with Alternative Therapeutics and Psychedelic Medicines38:47 Understanding Depression, Blame, & Paranoia (The Pattern Dividing Humans)41:20 What Sophie Values in Close Friendships43:03 Cultivating Psychological Safety48:20 Surprising Insights from Her Book59:00 Upcoming Projects & Future Work—Sophie Grégoire Trudeau: https://www.instagram.com/sophiegregoiretrudeau/—Step into the Multiverse with us...Shop SuperMush: https://supermush.com/ our in house brand of the most effective and delicious functional mushroom supplements.Use Code: ITM15 for 15% offInto the Multiverse Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothemultiverse/SuperMush Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/supermush/