When Shift Happens Podcast

Kevin Follonier

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I sit down every week with the most based people in crypto. My goal is to create a safe space to have the deepest and most real conversations with the biggest builders and investors in the industry, as well as to help educate the mainstream people, politicians, celebrities and big Web2 entrepreneurs coming into Web3. Hopefully this platform does its little part in onboarding as many people as possible into the incredible world of opportunities that Web 3 offers, while staying true to crypto’s core values and ethos. Thank you for watching.

Recent Episodes

OCT 29, 2026
E192: Tristan Thompson: Why This NBA Champion Is Betting on Crypto (and why you should too)
NBA champion Tristan Thompson breaks down the simple Bitcoin strategy he uses to build long-term wealth, and why he believes in Bitcoin going to $1 million. He opens up about growing up around government assistance, the memecoin trade where greed cost him most of a seven figure gain, and why so many rich people end up losing it all. Whether you’re new to crypto or already stacking, this is a rare look at how a pro athlete really thinks about money, risk, and getting rich. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ FOLLOW TRISTAN THOMPSON • Twitter: https://www.instagram.com/realtristan13/ • LinkedIn: https://x.com/TThompson FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 Intro 3:55 What Basketball Taught Tristan About Investing 4:41 Tristan’s Biggest Weakness 6:04 Growing Up With A Chip On His Shoulder 6:52 Why He Switched From Soccer To Basketball 8:58 Life After The NBA 11:20 Why Companies Want Former Athletes 12:46 Partnerships: @KASTxyz @Variational @BitwiseInvest 14:24 Why Sharks Target Athletes’ Money 16:49 Bitcoin To $1 Million? 19:37 Tristan’s Crypto Portfolio Beyond Bitcoin 21:08 His Biggest Miss & Best Investment 23:03 The Real Goal Behind Building Wealth 24:09 What Separates Talented From Great 24:49 Why He’s Betting On AI & Robotics 27:29 What Becomes Scarce When AI Makes Everything Abundant 28:44 Preparing Kids For An AI Future 29:51 Partnerships: @JupiterExchange @Ethena 30:35 Where The Money In AI Actually Goes 33:16 Why Rich People Lose It All 35:02 The Memecoin Trade That Got Away 35:35 Does Tristan Make Money Leverage Trading? 37:39 Tristan’s Thoughts On Zcash 38:03 What He’s Trying To Win Now 39:25 Do Elite Degrees Still Matter? 41:57 If You Don’t Spend It, Someone Else Will 42:46 Closing Thoughts
43 MIN
OCT 22, 2026
E191: Dan Tapiero: After 35 Years, I Figured Out The Secrets To Getting Rich In Crypto
Dan Tapiero, founder of $1.7 billion digital asset firm 10T Holdings, returns to reveal the boring secrets to getting rich in crypto that actually work, from why he passed on FTX to the selling rule that keeps you from giving it all back. After 35 years in investing, including working under legends Stan Druckenmiller, Julian Robertson and Steve Cohen, Dan explains why crypto is the easiest place in the world to make money and the hardest place to keep it. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ FOLLOW DAN TAPIERO • Twitter: https://x.com/DTAPCAP • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-tapiero-22b41b191/ FOLLOW 50T HOLDINGS • Twitter: https://x.com/50TFunds • Website: https://www.50tfunds.com/ FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 Intro 2:05 What Rich People Understand About Money 3:54 Why Dan Isn't On Instagram 5:18 The Biggest Myths About Getting Rich 6:43 Advice That Keeps People Poor 9:49 How FOMO Becomes The Wrecker Of Wealth 15:25 Partnerships: @Variational @BitwiseInvest 16:17 What People Shouldn't Optimize For In Crypto Today 18:20 Mistakes People Make In Their 20s & 30s 20:54 Knowing When To Sell Is A Skill All Should Learn 25:54 Skill vs Patience In Wealth Building 28:54 Why Do People Sell Their Winners Too Early? 30:46 Partnership: @KASTxyz 31:34 Where We're At Within The Crypto Wealth Cycle 37:20 Dan's Thoughts On Zcash's Progress 39:50 The Best Ways To Bet On Assets Going On Chain 43:01 How Bullish Is Dan On NFTs? 45:38 What Smart People In Crypto Get Wrong Today 48:26 Partnerships: @JupiterExchange @Ethena 49:09 Why All Monetary Value Will Go On Chain 51:21 Where Should A 25-Year-Old Spend Their Energy? 52:57 The Secrets To Getting Rich In Crypto 58:04 What Does A Rich Life Look Like For Dan? 59:58 Closing Thoughts
60 MIN
OCT 15, 2026
E190: Raoul Pal: How to Get Rich in Crypto Before AI Changes Everything
Raoul Pal believes we have roughly four years to build wealth before AI fundamentally changes how the economy works. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ CONNECT WITH RAOUL👇 Twitter: https://x.com/RaoulGMI Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raoulgmi YouTube: @RaoulPalTJM GET RAOUL PAL’S FREE REPORT AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT DECADE: https://rvtv.io/3YOZZUe CONNECT WITH REAL VISION👇 Twitter: https://x.com/RealVision Website: https://www.instagram.com/realvisiontv YouTube: @RealVisionPresents FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 0:00 - Intro 03:31 - The BANANA ZONE that never happened 04:07 - How To Allocate Better In Crypto 04:52 - How Compounding Actually Works 09:25 - Early vs Wrong: How To Tell 12:54 - The Belief Raoul Totally Reversed 19:01 - Sponsor: Variational, Bitwise 22:12 - The Belief Raoul Wishes Was Wrong 29:46 - How Long Does This Bull Run Last? 34:23 - The Next Obvious Crypto Narrative 36:50 - Is Bitcoin Still Primarily Money? 40:19 - Are We Underestimating AI’s Speed? 50:53 - Sponsor: Kast 51:41 - Will Crypto Ever Be Exciting Again? 59:49 - Is Success Being Smart Or Pain Tolerance? 1:03:27 - KR1: A Raoul Crypto Bet That didn't work 1:11:02 - When will The SUI Thesis Pay Off? 1:13:20 - What Brought Raoul Back To ETH 1:20:24 - Is Zcash A Trade Or A ZODL? 1:21:44 - How Big Can ZEC Get? 1:22:53 - Sponsor: Jupiter, Ethena 1:25:16 - What Is Money For? 1:26:45 - Optimizing For More Than Wealth 1:29:35 - The Most Asked Question To His Palvatar 1:33:31 - The Secret to Raoul's Great Looks 1:35:03 - Looksmaxxing: How Deep Is Raoul In? 1:37:46 - Was Telling Everyone About SUI a Wise Idea? 1:42:53 - Was the 70% SUI Position Sizing Wrong? 1:44:13 - Does Raoul Still Believe In Hold And Do Nothing? 1:44:48 - The One Major Shift Left To Witness 1:48:46 - How Good Is AI Today?
110 MIN
OCT 8, 2026
E189: Binance Founder: This Is The Best Time In History To Get Rich In Crypto
Changpeng Zhao (CZ), founder of Binance, sits down with Kevin live on stage at Bitcoin Asia 2026 in Hong Kong and explains why right now is the best point in history to build wealth in crypto. He breaks down why $1 million Bitcoin is coming faster than anyone expects, why Bitcoin will overtake gold in the next bull run, the exact crypto allocation he tells governments to hold, and what the biggest AI companies are telling him about launching their own tokens. Where the next decade of crypto is going, from the man who built the biggest exchange in the world. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=102... 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ 💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure. https://sui.io/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com ___________ FOLLOW CHANGPENG ZHAO (CZ)👇 Twitter: https://x.com/cz_binance FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. #CryptoNews, #JupiterDEX, #SolanaEcosystem, #DeFiInsights, #DEXAggregator, #CryptoTrading, #Web4, #BlockchainFuture, #TokenEconomics, #CryptoCommunity, #DeFiGrowth, #CryptoAdoption, #FintechRevolution, #CryptoMistakes, #FoundersStory, #CryptoBuilders, #DeFiRevenue, #CryptoVolume, #CryptoCulture, #Web3ToWeb4, #CryptoInnovation, #SolanaDEX, #CryptoProduct, #BlockchainStrategy 0:00 Intro 0:37 Do We Need 25 Years For Bitcoin To Hit $1M 1:36 What’s Needed For This Century To Be Bitcoin Century 3:26 How Tokenization Links To Bitcoin’s Success 5:08 Will Bitcoin Weaken Or Strengthen Governments 8:47 Are Governments Serious About Bitcoin Today 11:14 What Most Governments Aren’t Doing With Bitcoin 12:56 Which Countries Are Doing The Best With Bitcoin 15:36 Will Bitcoin Become More Valuable Than Gold 16:33 Could We Be Wrong About Bitcoin Being Better Than Gold 17:17 How Much Should Countries Go In On Bitcoin 20:37 What’s Driving The Next Bitcoin Cycle 21:49 How AI Agents Will Trade Crypto 25:21 Stablecoins vs Bitcoin’s Future 26:54 What Will CZ Contribute To The Bitcoin Century
32 MIN
OCT 1, 2026
E188: Crypto Trading Expert: Why No Amount of Crypto Is Enough (even millions)
Jordi Alexander, founder and CEO of crypto trading firm Selini Capital, explains why retirement is a 20th century dream and why no amount of money will ever be "enough" in a world being rebuilt by AI. He also shares the skill AI can't replace, where he sees Bitcoin and Zcash heading next, and why health, not wealth, will be the biggest divide of the next 20 years. THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER 💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter ___________ PARTNERS ⚖️ Variational aggregates liquidity to offer industry-leading depth on crypto, equities, commodities, and more: https://www.variational.io/ 🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/ 💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries - Get $20 Signup Bonus - https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT - promo code: SHIFT 🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off - promo code: WSH10 - https://affil.trezor.io/SH12h 🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ ⚖️ Ethena is a synthetic dollar protocol on Ethereum, offering a crypto-native, non-bank-dependent stablecoin called USDe. It uses a delta-neutral hedging strategy with staked ETH to maintain a $1 peg. https://ethena.fi/ ♾️ Coinsilium provides vital funding and expert advice to Web3 and AI-powered early-stage technology companies. https://www.coinsilium.com 🚀 Kalshi is a US regulated financial exchange that allows users to trade on the outcomes of real-world events : https://kalshi.com/category/crypto ___________ CONNECT WITH JORDI ALEXANDER Twitter: https://x.com/gametheorizing FOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENS Twitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/ Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/ DISCLAIMER The info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome. 00:00 Intro 03:23 How Do You Not Break The Streak? 05:56 Who Are You? 09:24 When Did You Know You'd Made It? 12:15 How Do You Get Into The Inner Circle? 14:23 Are Billionaires Actually Special? 18:55 Early Or Just Wrong On AGI? 24:00 Sponsor: Variational, Bitwise 24:57 How Do You Not Go Crazy? 29:10 When Did Your Intuition Cost You? 31:30 The Skill AI Can't Replace 41:25 Are Book Smarts Dead? 43:03 When To Stop Grinding And Recharge 47:17 How Do You Protect Your Peace Of Mind? 51:03 Is "No Retirement" Bad Advice For Normal People? 54:45 Sponsor: Kast 1:01:13 Are Health Shortcuts Worth It? 1:06:52 Has Your Hourly Rate Changed? 50K For A Coffee 1:09:41 Where Is The Puck Going? 1:16:07 Which Platforms Win? 1:20:18 Is Qiao Wang Serious About Zcash? 1:23:19 Where Could Zcash Be In 2 Years? 1:24:50 What's In Your Macro Portfolio? 1:25:50 Why Nobody Teaches Allocation 1:29:08 Sponsor: Jupiter, Ethena 1:29:48 How Wealth Turns Into Unhappiness 1:34:56 When Does More Money Stop Mattering? 1:36:07 Why Spend Millions To Impress Strangers? 1:40:37 At 90, What Would Make Your Money Worth It? 1:42:47 Health Inequality Vs Wealth Inequality 1:44:10 What To Do When You're Spiraling 1:49:16 Can Normal People Access Psychedelic Therapy? 1:51:15 The One Thing To Remember 1:53:01 Thank You Jordi
113 MIN