<a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms">Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!</a>A cupcake caper, an Unreal-powered mansion, and a question every youth leader wrestles with: should we separate junior high and high school? We sit down with student pastor Michelle Kruse from Summit Christian Church to unpack how age-intentional programming can transform engagement without requiring a bigger building or a bigger budget. Michelle walks us through their midweek system that alternates middle school and high school in the same space, why the teaching style shifts for each group, and how small groups, worship, and pace change when you design for real developmental stages. We also explore the hidden engine of healthy transitions: a purposeful preteen ministry. Michelle shares how she launched a fourth and fifth grade service, then empowered a part-time couple—both teachers—to lead with Orange curriculum, accessible teaching, and consistent small groups. The result is a smoother handoff into student ministry, monthly fifth-grade previews of midweek, and camp experiences that ease anxiety. One of our favorite moments: why the car ride home with a parent might be the most important discipleship moment for preteens. If you’re navigating limited space, limited volunteers, or mixed-age expectations, this conversation offers practical tactics you can try tomorrow: teaching twice in one night, swapping spaces, recruiting part-time leaders, and inviting high schoolers to serve in preteen or middle school to keep mentorship alive. We also get honest about quality tradeoffs, leader health, and how to read your context so you can separate where it matters most and still sustain a life-giving pace. Subscribe, share this episode with a fellow youth leader, and leave a review with one change you’re considering for your next gathering—we’d love to hear what you’ll try first.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms"&gt;Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A cupcake caper, an Unreal-powered mansion, and a question every youth leader wrestles with: should we separate junior high and high school? We sit down with student pastor Michelle Kruse from Summit Christian Church to unpack how age-intentional programming can transform engagement without requiring a bigger building or a bigger budget. Michelle walks us through their midweek system that alternates middle school and high school in the same space, why the teaching style shifts for each group, and how small groups, worship, and pace change when you design for real developmental stages.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We also explore the hidden engine of healthy transitions: a purposeful preteen ministry. Michelle shares how she launched a fourth and fifth grade service, then empowered a part-time couple—both teachers—to lead with Orange curriculum, accessible teaching, and consistent small groups. The result is a smoother handoff into student ministry, monthly fifth-grade previews of midweek, and camp experiences that ease anxiety. One of our favorite moments: why the car ride home with a parent might be the most important discipleship moment for preteens.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you’re navigating limited space, limited volunteers, or mixed-age expectations, this conversation offers practical tactics you can try tomorrow: teaching twice in one night, swapping spaces, recruiting part-time leaders, and inviting high schoolers to serve in preteen or middle school to keep mentorship alive. We also get honest about quality tradeoffs, leader health, and how to read your context so you can separate where it matters most and still sustain a life-giving pace.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Subscribe, share this episode with a fellow youth leader, and leave a review with one change you’re considering for your next gathering—we’d love to hear what you’ll try first.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us! A cupcake caper, an Unreal-powered mansion, and a question every youth leader wrestles with: should we separate junior high and high school? We sit down with student pastor Michelle Kruse from Summit Christian Church to unpack how age-intentional programming can transform engagement without requiring a bigger building or a bigger budget. Michelle walks us through their midweek system that alternates middle school and high school in the same spa...

BTE 5.07 Middle and High School Separate vs. Together: Part 1 with Michelle Kruse and Rob Watson

<a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms">Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!</a>What if the fastest way to deeper impact isn’t writing more, but freeing leaders to be with people? We pull back the curtain on our content process and share why we’ve built a central writing model that serves multiple campuses while giving local teams room to adapt. Our north star this summer is Ephesians and the identity of a “kingdom worker”—loved, rescued, changed, and sent. That sending isn’t theoretical: we’re equipping students to share their faith after the event and inviting youth pastors to collect stories that spark courage across their ministries. We also introduce our mission partner, Con Mis Manos in Matamoros, Mexico, a ministry serving deaf students who often face social isolation and limited access to sign language and education. Their story—told through a new film centered on founder Michelle Zúñiga—threads through the week. Students will see Spanish Sign Language woven into gatherings, even joining prayers led by deaf students. It’s a living picture of global kingdom work and a powerful way to practice generosity that honors dignity and presence over programs. Why write your own curriculum instead of buying it? We make the case for a blended approach: a central writer crafts clear, biblically grounded outlines, campuses contextualize, and volunteers and students share the teaching load. Video teaches some moments, but we always land live. We also set firm guardrails for AI—useful for brainstorming and visuals, off-limits for theology and spiritual direction. Smaller churches can run the same play by equipping a small content team, elevating student communicators, and keeping every talk simple enough to reproduce. When identity begins in Christ and every message points back to Jesus, students don’t just learn; they move. If this resonates, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help more leaders find these conversations. Then tell us: how are you sending your students this week?

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms"&gt;Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What if the fastest way to deeper impact isn’t writing more, but freeing leaders to be with people? We pull back the curtain on our content process and share why we’ve built a central writing model that serves multiple campuses while giving local teams room to adapt. Our north star this summer is Ephesians and the identity of a “kingdom worker”—loved, rescued, changed, and sent. That sending isn’t theoretical: we’re equipping students to share their faith after the event and inviting youth pastors to collect stories that spark courage across their ministries.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We also introduce our mission partner, Con Mis Manos in Matamoros, Mexico, a ministry serving deaf students who often face social isolation and limited access to sign language and education. Their story—told through a new film centered on founder Michelle Zúñiga—threads through the week. Students will see Spanish Sign Language woven into gatherings, even joining prayers led by deaf students. It’s a living picture of global kingdom work and a powerful way to practice generosity that honors dignity and presence over programs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why write your own curriculum instead of buying it? We make the case for a blended approach: a central writer crafts clear, biblically grounded outlines, campuses contextualize, and volunteers and students share the teaching load. Video teaches some moments, but we always land live. We also set firm guardrails for AI—useful for brainstorming and visuals, off-limits for theology and spiritual direction. Smaller churches can run the same play by equipping a small content team, elevating student communicators, and keeping every talk simple enough to reproduce. When identity begins in Christ and every message points back to Jesus, students don’t just learn; they move.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If this resonates, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review to help more leaders find these conversations. Then tell us: how are you sending your students this week?&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us! What if the fastest way to deeper impact isn’t writing more, but freeing leaders to be with people? We pull back the curtain on our content process and share why we’ve built a central writing model that serves multiple campuses while giving local teams room to adapt. Our north star this summer is Ephesians and the identity of a “kingdom worker”—loved, rescued, changed, and sent. That sending isn’t theoretical: we’re equipping students to share ...

BTE 5.06 Buying Curriculum vs. Writing Your Own: Part 2 with Mike Branton and Patrick Snow

<a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms">Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!</a>What if the fastest route to a healthier youth ministry isn’t writing more, but shepherding more? We sit down with Anne Wilson, Next Gen Pastor at Traders Point Christian Church, to learn the value of buying curriculum, then spending your reclaimed hours pastoring students and training volunteers. Anne shares a practical, month-ahead workflow for taking a solid, gospel-centered series from download to stage—assigning a rotating editor, contextualizing scripts, upgrading small group questions, and leaving room for the Holy Spirit to lead. The payoff is tangible: more time in schools and FCA, stronger leader prep, and holy moments like spontaneous baptisms when hearts are ready. We also pull back the curtain on CIY MOVE&apos;s upcoming Kingdom Workers theme. Think Ephesians with a bright, surreal visual world and a reimagined response element that nods to the past without living in it. The film project with a new mission partner threads beautifully through the theme, showing students how vocation and calling intersect in ordinary life. Ephesians 2:10 anchors the message: you are God’s handiwork, sent to make everyday spaces sacred—classrooms, shops, studios, and sidelines. If you’ve wrestled with the stigma of “selling out” by purchasing curriculum, Anne offers a reframing that’s both freeing and challenging. Students aren’t grading authorship—they’re aching for truth and presence. Treat curriculum like worship music: sometimes you write for your house; often you lead with faithful songs others composed. The key is stewardship and context, not copy-paste shortcuts. Leave with a clear process you can adopt tomorrow, a vision for sacred work in everyday places, and a renewed conviction that your best creativity might be spent in conversation, not in a document.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms"&gt;Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What if the fastest route to a healthier youth ministry isn’t writing more, but shepherding more? We sit down with Anne Wilson, Next Gen Pastor at Traders Point Christian Church, to learn the value of buying curriculum, then spending your reclaimed hours pastoring students and training volunteers. Anne shares a practical, month-ahead workflow for taking a solid, gospel-centered series from download to stage—assigning a rotating editor, contextualizing scripts, upgrading small group questions, and leaving room for the Holy Spirit to lead. The payoff is tangible: more time in schools and FCA, stronger leader prep, and holy moments like spontaneous baptisms when hearts are ready.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We also pull back the curtain on CIY MOVE&amp;apos;s upcoming Kingdom Workers theme. Think Ephesians with a bright, surreal visual world and a reimagined response element that nods to the past without living in it. The film project with a new mission partner threads beautifully through the theme, showing students how vocation and calling intersect in ordinary life. Ephesians 2:10 anchors the message: you are God’s handiwork, sent to make everyday spaces sacred—classrooms, shops, studios, and sidelines.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you’ve wrestled with the stigma of “selling out” by purchasing curriculum, Anne offers a reframing that’s both freeing and challenging. Students aren’t grading authorship—they’re aching for truth and presence. Treat curriculum like worship music: sometimes you write for your house; often you lead with faithful songs others composed. The key is stewardship and context, not copy-paste shortcuts. Leave with a clear process you can adopt tomorrow, a vision for sacred work in everyday places, and a renewed conviction that your best creativity might be spent in conversation, not in a document.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us! What if the fastest route to a healthier youth ministry isn’t writing more, but shepherding more? We sit down with Anne Wilson, Next Gen Pastor at Traders Point Christian Church, to learn the value of buying curriculum, then spending your reclaimed hours pastoring students and training volunteers. Anne shares a practical, month-ahead workflow for taking a solid, gospel-centered series from download to stage—assigning a rotating editor, contextu...

BTE 5.05 Buying Curriculum vs. Writing Your Own: Part 1 with Anne Wilson and Mikey Sackrider

<a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms">Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!</a>A freshman gets baptized by his friends. A mom weeps because her child—wounded by past violence—finally steps out to a church event. Teenagers run cameras, lead songs, read Scripture, and help with communion. The thread tying it together is simple and bold: there’s no junior Holy Spirit, and students don’t need a separate church—they need a real place in the church. We sit down with Jordan Francis of Reframe Youth to unpack why intergenerational ministry is more than a nice idea; it’s one of the strongest predictors of a faith that lasts beyond graduation. Jordan shares how smaller and more diverse congregations often integrate students by necessity, and how that necessity becomes a discipleship advantage. We dig into practical systems you can replicate: use Wednesdays to build relationships and pathways, then launch students into Sunday roles—worship, kids, production, hospitality—where older saints mentor and teenagers contribute in meaningful ways. If you’re in a large church, Jordan maps a smart playbook: don’t start with the senior pastor; partner with kids and next gen leaders to build a simple pipeline, gather stories and data, and expand from proof-of-concept to church-wide practice. Along the way, we talk about calling out gifts, coaching through the mess, giving teens language for hard days, and shifting Sunday from a show to a shared family responsibility. Expect sharp insights, field-tested tactics, and stories that will reshape how you see teenagers in your worshiping community.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms"&gt;Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A freshman gets baptized by his friends. A mom weeps because her child—wounded by past violence—finally steps out to a church event. Teenagers run cameras, lead songs, read Scripture, and help with communion. The thread tying it together is simple and bold: there’s no junior Holy Spirit, and students don’t need a separate church—they need a real place in the church.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We sit down with Jordan Francis of Reframe Youth to unpack why intergenerational ministry is more than a nice idea; it’s one of the strongest predictors of a faith that lasts beyond graduation. Jordan shares how smaller and more diverse congregations often integrate students by necessity, and how that necessity becomes a discipleship advantage. We dig into practical systems you can replicate: use Wednesdays to build relationships and pathways, then launch students into Sunday roles—worship, kids, production, hospitality—where older saints mentor and teenagers contribute in meaningful ways.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you’re in a large church, Jordan maps a smart playbook: don’t start with the senior pastor; partner with kids and next gen leaders to build a simple pipeline, gather stories and data, and expand from proof-of-concept to church-wide practice. Along the way, we talk about calling out gifts, coaching through the mess, giving teens language for hard days, and shifting Sunday from a show to a shared family responsibility. Expect sharp insights, field-tested tactics, and stories that will reshape how you see teenagers in your worshiping community.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us! A freshman gets baptized by his friends. A mom weeps because her child—wounded by past violence—finally steps out to a church event. Teenagers run cameras, lead songs, read Scripture, and help with communion. The thread tying it together is simple and bold: there’s no junior Holy Spirit, and students don’t need a separate church—they need a real place in the church.  We sit down with Jordan Francis of Reframe Youth to unpack why intergeneration...

BTE 5.04 Prioritizing Student-Only Spaces vs. Integrating Students in "Big Church": Part 2 with Jordan Francis and Korey Klein

<a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms">Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!</a>Want teens to feel seen, speak up, and stick around? We dig into the power of student-only spaces with Family Ministries pastor Tito Lozano and uncover how comfort, agency, and relationship-driven environments lead to deeper faith and smoother integration into the wider church. Tito walks us through a simple but game-changing redesign—turning a stage into a lounge with couches and beanbags—and how that shift invited vulnerability and richer small group conversations. We also unpack student ownership: room decor, anonymous feedback surveys, and a voice in series planning that sparks buy-in and makes “our youth group” feel truly theirs. We don’t stop at the youth room door. Tito shares a balanced rhythm for integration—one Sunday a month in “big church”—that familiarizes teens with the lead pastor, corporate worship, and adult liturgy without sacrificing the age-intentional midweek environment. We tackle serving pathways that don’t bury the same students behind tech every week, and we highlight the irreplaceable role of adult leaders who show up at games, concerts, and fourth-meal hangouts. Those everyday moments become the bridge from adolescent faith to adult discipleship.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/twilio/text_messages/1869215/open_sms"&gt;Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Want teens to feel seen, speak up, and stick around? We dig into the power of student-only spaces with Family Ministries pastor Tito Lozano and uncover how comfort, agency, and relationship-driven environments lead to deeper faith and smoother integration into the wider church. Tito walks us through a simple but game-changing redesign—turning a stage into a lounge with couches and beanbags—and how that shift invited vulnerability and richer small group conversations. We also unpack student ownership: room decor, anonymous feedback surveys, and a voice in series planning that sparks buy-in and makes “our youth group” feel truly theirs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We don’t stop at the youth room door. Tito shares a balanced rhythm for integration—one Sunday a month in “big church”—that familiarizes teens with the lead pastor, corporate worship, and adult liturgy without sacrificing the age-intentional midweek environment. We tackle serving pathways that don’t bury the same students behind tech every week, and we highlight the irreplaceable role of adult leaders who show up at games, concerts, and fourth-meal hangouts. Those everyday moments become the bridge from adolescent faith to adult discipleship.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Mailbag questions or topic suggestions? Text us! Want teens to feel seen, speak up, and stick around? We dig into the power of student-only spaces with Family Ministries pastor Tito Lozano and uncover how comfort, agency, and relationship-driven environments lead to deeper faith and smoother integration into the wider church. Tito walks us through a simple but game-changing redesign—turning a stage into a lounge with couches and beanbags—and how that shift invited vulnerability and richer sma...

BTE 5.03 Prioritizing Student-Only Spaces vs. Integrating Students in "Big Church": Part 1 with Tito Lozano and Logan Sperry

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