What the pandemic taught the U.S. government about getting payments out quickly to the right people, in the right amounts, while trying to reduce waste, fraud and abuse. And what still needs to be done to prevent fraud and distribute payments quickly in the event of a future national emergency. Listen to the discussion with David Mader, former OMB controller, now with Deloitte’s federal government practice. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.