Conventions, holidays, and family matters got in the way of getting the next Supernatural Then and Now episode out on time. However, this week in its place please enjoy this throwback episode to 2020 when Rob and Rich interview Alex Calvert for the Kings of Con podcast. They did into all things Alex, and it's wild to look back to life in 2020. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices