Holden talks us through the ins and other ins and more ins of fantasy football and while he lays down the history, comedian Trae Crowder talks about the personal satisfaction and fun of being in a fantasy football league for 20 years, and how glorious but also humiliating that can be. Lots of glory and humiliation in this one! Yes we talk sports, but more importantly how a bunch of nerds took sports and made it into their own version of D and D with CTE.Want even more Nerd of Mouth? Support us on Patreon! www.patreon.com/nerdofmouth Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Nerd of Mouth ad-free.Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.