<p>Our second episode, part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Aaron Kheriaty continues today. </p><p>What have the churches learned from the pandemic?  What should they learn? As the covid narrative crumbles and examination of what went wrong begins, it is vital that we wrestle with such questions and that we prepare for whatever should be expected next.  We sat down with <a target="_blank" href="https://aaronkheriaty.substack.com">Aaron Kheriaty</a>, author of <em>The New Abnormal</em>, and <a target="_blank" href="https://douglasfarrow.substack.com">Douglas Farrow</a> to discuss these things.  </p><p>Psalm 139 - Re-Written for the Present Day</p><p>By Ivan De Silva</p><p>O State of the New World Order, you have hacked me</p><p>    and know everything about me</p><p>By your all-encompassing surveillance, you know when I sit down or stand up.</p><p>    by your implanted nanoparticles you know my thoughts even when I’m far away.</p><p>By tracking my every central bank digital currency purchase you see me when I travel</p><p>    and when I rest at home.</p><p>    You know everything I do.</p><p><em>Hear the rest in the podcast</em></p><p>Hosts:</p><p><strong>Ivan De Silva</strong>, MDiv, ThM, Instructor in Religious Studies, Trinity Western University, Pacific Life Bible College</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.jenszimmermann.ca"><strong>Jens Zimmermann</strong></a>, PhD, JI Packer Chair of Theology, Regent College</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://douglasfarrow.substack.com/"><strong>Douglas Farrow</strong></a><strong>,</strong> Professor of Theology and Ethics, McGill University</p><p><a target="_blank" href="https://aaronkheriaty.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&#38;utm_medium=web&#38;utm_campaign=substack_profile"><strong>Aaron Kheriaty, MD</strong></a><strong>, </strong>Fellow and Director of the Bioethics and American Democracy Program at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. Senior Fellow and Director of the Health and Human Flourishing Program at the Zephyr Institute. Scholar at the Paul Ramsey Institute.</p><p>Producer:</p><p><strong>Curtis Meliefste, </strong>MDiv Student, Calvin Theological Seminary</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://abiblicalframe.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">abiblicalframe.substack.com</a>