<p>Journalist and political communications specialist Gil Duran joins Dave for a discussion of The Network State, the latest in a long line of Libertarian Exit ideologies. Based on the ideas of people like Patri Friedman, Balaji Srinavasan, and Curtis Yarvin, the movement ultimately aims to dismantle the American government in favor of a network of federated states, all competing for citizens. The ideology has found a home in the second Trump administration and is gaining momentum quickly. Dave and Gil discuss what it is, where it came from, and how to go about stopping its spread.</p> <p>Interview starts at 02:47</p> <p>00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome</p> <p>00:05 Exploring the Network State Concept</p> <p>02:47 Mainstream Media's Reluctance</p> <p>03:40 Historical Context and Silicon Valley's Influence</p> <p>04:42 Local Politics and Billionaire Influence</p> <p>05:22 Acceleration of Network State Ideologies</p> <p>07:54 Freedom Cities and Corporate Dystopias</p> <p>11:59 Exit vs. Voice: Libertarian Ideals</p> <p>17:36 Cultish Movements and Apocalyptic Visions</p> <p>22:48 Autocracy Inc. and Global Implications</p> <p>33:12 Bitcoin and Right-Wing Politics</p> <p>34:02 Network State and Democracy</p> <p>34:29 Media and Political Awareness</p> <p>35:37 Democrats and Cryptocurrency</p> <p>43:51 Technocracy and Historical Parallels</p> <p>51:43 Substack vs. Ghost Platform</p> <p>55:00 Future Political Landscape</p> <p>01:02:45 Grassroots Movements and Conclusion</p> <p>Links:</p> <p>https://thenerdreich.com</p> <p>https://x.com/gilduran76</p> <p>https://theframelab.org</p>