Think Like a Vegan
Think Like a Vegan

Think Like a Vegan

Emilia Leese

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A podcast bringing you thought provoking deep dives across a wide variety of subjects related to veganism. The host is Emilia Leese, co-author of the book, Think Like a Vegan Each episode is a mini talk by a guest or the hose about a single topic relating to veganism, which might not be the focus of an everyday conversation. These short talks and guests will inspire and educate, expanding the conversation around veganism. And all is premised on veganism being part of basic fairness

Recent Episodes

Ep 34: Nature Has No Borders: The Controversial Science of Invasion Ecology
MAY 1, 2026
Ep 34: Nature Has No Borders: The Controversial Science of Invasion Ecology
Join me for a provocative conversation with brothers Vasile and James Stănescu as we deconstruct the common yet charged concept of "invasive species." Moving beyond a simplified view of nature, we explore how the rhetoric of "invasion ecology" creates a violent foundation justifying perpetual war against certain animals.Drawing from their contributions to the critical book, The Ethics and Rhetoric of Invasion Ecology, James and Vasile unpack the real-world consequences of this ideology. Vasile illustrates the cyclical failure of "management," where killing one species leads to an explosion in another, forcing us to ask: why must nature be violated in order to protect it? James, one of the book's editors, examines the militarized language and apocalyptic tone used to describe non-native species, which in turn dictates a response of total eradication—a hyperbolic reaction to hyperbolic communication.This episode challenges the sanitized ideal of a pristine wilderness and delves into the ethical costs of this worldview for both human and non-human animals. Tune in for a deep dive into the intersection of language, ecology, and animal liberation.Website/Socials & Books:Vasile StǎnescuWebsite: How we win https://www.winforanimals.org Podcast: How we win https://www.winforanimals.org/how-we-win-podcast Instagram: @professional.vegan Article: "How Industrial Slaughter Became the Blueprint for Modern Capitalism" https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/how-industrial-slaughter-became-the-blueprint-for-modern-capitalism James StǎnescuWebsite: https://www.criticalanimal.com Book: The Ethics and Rhetoric of Invasion Ecology (Lexington Books, 2017)Other linksBanu Subramanian, "The Aliens Have Landed! Reflections on the Rhetoric of Biological Invasions" https://www.jstor.org/stable/40338794 Emi Leesehttps://emilialeese.substack.com http://thinklikeavegan.com http://emilialeese.com Instagram @emi.leese YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thinklikeavegan/videos CreditsHost: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Vasile Stǎnescu and James StǎnescuProduction & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "Ōuda Afternoon I" music by Matthew Gerstenberger, voice by ChiyakoClosing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic BusinessThis podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com
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51 MIN
Ep 33: Between Storms and Laws: The battle for Pakistan’s animals
APR 1, 2026
Ep 33: Between Storms and Laws: The battle for Pakistan’s animals
When disaster strikes – a flood, wildfire, massive quake – most of the headlines understandably focus on the human toll. But what happens to the animals? They are the silent, often invisible victims, and their suffering is deeply intertwined with our own. The bonds between people and their animals and the wildlife sharing our ecosystems mean that when animals suffer, human communities suffer too.So, how do we break this cycle? How can we provide help and assistance to both people and animals, and work towards preventing these catastrophes, especially those supercharged by climate change?In this compelling episode, I speak with Altamush Saeed, a dedicated professional working tirelessly on the front lines in Pakistan to do just that. He shares powerful and innovative approaches to building resilient communities protecting all their members irrespective of species. Join us for a conversation going beyond the headlines to reveal a more compassionate and effective model for disaster response, one which includes the well-being of people and the planet's creatures as one, unified path toward a safer, healthier future for all.Website/Socials & Books:Altamush SaeedInstagram https://www.instagram.com/altamushsaeed LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamushsaeed95/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Altamushsaeed95 Case note on the animal rights sentience judgment - https://tinyurl.com/2r256uzv Other linksCharity Doings Foundation Pakistanhttps://twitter.com/CharityDoings https://www.linkedin.com/company/charity-doings-foundation/ instagram.com/charitydoingsfoundation https://youtube.com/channel/UCTLoPSGdZb-Qy_1ncAUYkRA https://www.facebook.com/CharityDoingz/ Environmental and Animal Rights Consultants Pakistanhttps://www.facebook.com/EARCPAK https://www.instagram.com/earcpakistan https://www.linkedin.com/company/environmental-and-animal-rights-consultants-llp-pakistan/ Emi Leesehttps://emilialeese.substack.com http://thinklikeavegan.com http://emilialeese.com Instagram @emi.leese YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thinklikeavegan/videos CreditsHost: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Altamush SaeedProduction & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "Ofusa Fuurin" by Matthew GerstenbergerClosing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic BusinessThis podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com
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53 MIN
Ep 32: Why do we always make other animals the problem?
MAR 1, 2026
Ep 32: Why do we always make other animals the problem?
Ever been told an animal is a "problem"? From the deer in our backyards and the pigeons in our cities to the elephants on their ancestral lands, we constantly label other species as pests, nuisances, and issues to be solved. But what if the real problem isn't the animal themselves, but the way we choose to see them?In this episode, Claudia Hirtenfelder, host of the acclaimed podcast The Animal Turn and a brilliant geographer, unravels the surprising process of how we "make" animals into problems. She introduces her powerful concept of "problematization" — the social and historical system where animals are first labelled as a problem in our laws and conversations, and then managed, or even removed, because of it.We'll explore the consequences of this labeling and discover how this framework explains not just the history of cows in one Canadian city, but the global stories of creatures from coyotes and badgers to sea gulls and squirrels. Get ready to have your perspective flipped. Tune in to ask the critical question: When we call an animal a problem, what are we really saying about ourselves?Website/Socials & Books:Claudia HirtenfelderPodcast: https://www.theanimalturnpodcast.com    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/claudia-hirtenfelder-a360241a  Article: "An analytical framework to understand the problematization of urban (historical) animals" https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/25148486241281227 Other linksVienna Animal Studies Group: https://www.viennaanimalstudies.com Phoenix Zones: https://www.phoenixzonesinitiative.org Transformation Austria: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10009315345939 Wild crows inhabiting the city use it to their advantage - David Attenborough - BBC wildlife https://youtu.be/BGPGknpq3e0?si=HVn4TpZuTJWOcFTG  Straying Home: A film essay with urban animals https://youtu.be/kfITJ9zDU5w?si=LKHljLvR2nFjt3ne by just wondering https://justwondering.io/beyond-speciesism-beyond-humanism-beyond/ "Turkey's street-living dogs: Thoughts in light of Turkey's controversial 'adoption' law", by Emilia Leese https://open.substack.com/pub/emilialeese/p/turkeys-street-living-dogs Emi Leesehttps://emilialeese.substack.com       http://thinklikeavegan.com        http://emilialeese.com       Instagram @emi.leese YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thinklikeavegan/videos     CreditsHost: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Claudia HirtenfelderProduction & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com      Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com      MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "No Time" by Matthew GerstenbergerClosing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic BusinessThis podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com   
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48 MIN
Ep. 31: Your First Foray into Control: The Problem with Adult Supremacy
FEB 1, 2026
Ep. 31: Your First Foray into Control: The Problem with Adult Supremacy
Join me for a conversation with scholar-activist Amanda Williams as we dismantle the idea of "adult supremacy" and connect it to the broader fight for total liberation. Amanda shows us how our first lessons in power often start with controlling children, and how to turn that awareness into tangible action for a more compassionate world.Website/Socials & BooksAmanda WilliamsLinktree: https://linktr.ee/amandarwilliamsBooks by Amanda: The Overprivileged Human; What Can I Do?; Exploring Topics in Non/Human CoexistenceFree Frankie pressure campaign: https://www.kcactionforanimals.org/ Recommended books: Raising our Children, Raising Ourselves by Naomi Aldort; Unconditional Parenting by Alfie KohnOther links"Ten Unschooling Boogeymen And How They're All NBD", by Agni Hogaboom https://buymeacoffee.com/agnihogaboom/ten-unschooling-boogeymen "Unschooling For Parents Who Don't Unschool", by Agni Hogaboom https://buymeacoffee.com/agnihogaboom/unschooling-for-parents-who-don-unschool-761293 Emi Leesehttps://emilialeese.substack.com      http://thinklikeavegan.com       http://emilialeese.com      Instagram @emi.leese YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thinklikeavegan/videos    CreditsHost: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Amanda WilliamsProduction & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com     Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com     MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "Mushi" by Matthew GerstenbergerClosing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic BusinessThis podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com     
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40 MIN
Ep. 30: Voices for the voiceless: animal rights activism in Canada - ethical beliefs among vegans and how they translate to animal rights activism
JAN 15, 2026
Ep. 30: Voices for the voiceless: animal rights activism in Canada - ethical beliefs among vegans and how they translate to animal rights activism
What happens when a folklorist goes inside vegan and animal rights communities, not as an outsider looking in, but as someone documenting their lived beliefs? Dr. Ceallaigh MacCath-Moran joins me to discuss her research in St. John’s and Toronto, where she explores veganism as a counter-hegemonic tradition and activism as performative resistance. We delve into how media and academia often misrepresent these movements and why insider voices matter. From Gramsci to grassroots protest, this conversation challenges the idea speciesism is just common sense and asks what justice really sounds like when dissent speaksWebsite/socialsDr. Ceallaigh MacCath-Moranhttps://csmaccath.com/home PhD dissertation https://research.library.mun.ca/16537/Your Vegan Fallacy Is https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en https://linktr.ee/csmaccath Other links"What's wrong with carnism?" by Dr Corey Wrenn https://www.coreyleewrenn.com/carnism/ Emi Leesehttps://emilialeese.substack.com     http://thinklikeavegan.com      http://emilialeese.com     Instagram @emi.leeseYouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thinklikeavegan/videos   CreditsHost: Emilia A. Leese Guest: Dr. Ceallaigh S. MacCath-MoranProduction & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com    Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com    MusicOpening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business Interlude: "Kawa" music by Matthew Gerstenberger and voice by ChiyakoClosing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic BusinessThis podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com   
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59 MIN