Marketing Against The Grain

Hubspot Media

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Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

Recent Episodes

SEP 22, 2026
Give Us 30 Minutes & We’ll Fix Your Marketing for 2027
Build a taste profile that makes your AI output sound like you: https://clickhubspot.com/iflm Ep 455 Did you know HubSpot lost 140 million visits in a year but still increased demand generation by 20%? Kipp and Kieran dive into why the old rules of marketing no longer work—and what new playbooks you need to win in the AI era, at HubSpot’s Unbound. Learn more on building a living taste profile, leveraging AI for relentless content creation, optimizing paid ads through creative experimentation, and turning rapid learning into your team's ultimate advantage. Mentions Unbound https://unbound.hubspot.com/ Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book Yamini Rangan https://www.linkedin.com/in/yaminirangan/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Meta Advantage+ https://www.facebook.com/business/ads/meta-advantage-plus Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
27 MIN
SEP 17, 2026
Zero-Click Marketing: How to Win When Google Stops Sending Traffic
Free: 15 prompts to keep your brand visible in search https://clickhubspot.com/ikub Ep. 454 Did you know that today, 68% of all Google searches end without a single click? Kipp, Kieran, and guest Amanda Natividad (founder of Zero Click Marketing, and co-author of the forthcoming book, Zero Click Marketing) dive into the era of zero-click marketing, covering how search behavior is changing, what it means for your company’s growth, and what you must do to thrive. Learn more on evolving beyond Google to meet your audience where they are, rethinking the purpose of SEO in a diversified search landscape, and building lasting value by focusing on the right audience—not just more traffic. Mentions Amanda Natividad https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandanat/ Zero Click Marketing https://zeroclickmarketing.co/ Zero Click Marketing (book) https://www.damngravity.com/products/zero-click-marketing SparkToro https://sparktoro.com/ Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
34 MIN
SEP 15, 2026
Dharmesh Shah: “The New AI Era Will Create Millions of One-Person Businesses
[Free guide] build your second brain with AI: https://clickhubspot.com/efeg To get started with YouSpot, go to https://youspot.com/pricing/pro?promo=BRAINTHEGRAIN You'll then see the coupon code automatically applied on checkout. Ep. 453 Did you know that 86% of all new companies started aren’t expected to hire any employees? Kipp, Kieran, and guest Dharmesh Shah (Founder of HubSpot) dive into the rapidly growing world of one-person businesses and how AI is fueling a new wave of solopreneurs. Learn more on the evolution of the "second brain" for entrepreneurs, how agentic AI harnesses are changing the game, and why rethinking CRMs for solo operators is unlocking new levels of productivity. Mentions Dharmesh Shah https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmesh/ Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book YouSpot https://youspot.com/ Agent.ai agent.ai SecondBrain https://youspot.com/about/secondbrain Obsidian https://obsidian.md/ Fable 5.1 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1 Go to YouSpot.com and use code BRAINTHEGRAIN at checkout for the special Marketing Against the Grain price. Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
41 MIN
SEP 10, 2026
I Spend $400K/Day on Meta Ads. Here's What's Working Right Now
Free Meta Ad Creative Prompt Pack: https://clickhubspot.com/prgl Ep. 452 Could your company grow to $20M in revenue in just 20 months by focusing 80% of your ad budget on a single channel? Kipp, Kieran, and guest Danny Yeung (CEO and co-founder of IM8) dive into the marketing strategy behind the explosive growth of IM8 and how Meta became their powerhouse for customer acquisition. Learn more on how to master Meta’s platform with creative-first tactics, build a high-performing marketing team for rapid scale, and leverage offline strategies to make your brand unforgettable. Mentions Danny Yeung https://hk.linkedin.com/in/dyeung22 IM8 https://im8health.com/ Prenetics https://www.prenetics.com/ Allianz https://www.allianzlife.com/ Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book Ask Kipp and Kieran a question! https://form.asana.com/?k=U4n5W_3WC2SkQO1bwK8Xzg&d=8587152060687 Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
32 MIN
SEP 8, 2026
Is the CMO Role About to Disappear Forever?
Build your AI marketing department with this Claude skill: ⁠https://clickhubspot.com/rlcb⁠ Ep. 451 Is the CMO role dying? Kipp and Kieran dive into why marketing’s highest seat is under pressure and what founders and marketers should do about it. Learn more on why the expectations for marketing leaders are higher than ever, how the evolution of marketing skills and AI are shaping the talent pipeline, and what strategies companies can use when they can’t find the perfect head of marketing. Mentions Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/ Ask Kipp and Kieran a question! https://form.asana.com/?k=U4n5W_3WC2SkQO1bwK8Xzg&d=8587152060687 Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/@matgpod Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@marketingatg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934 We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
34 MIN