<description>&lt;p&gt;Frequent listeners know we're always eager to learn about how climate investing needs to change to be more effective. With the attacks on ESG and a new political era, we’re clearly in a new chapter for climate investing and being intentional about the ingredients, language and goals of this new chapter is critical for delivering both solid returns and real impact.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rob Brown argues that its time to step back from overreach and inauthentic impact goals, and fuel this new chapter with rigor. Rob wears a couple of hats as Director of Climate Research at &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://resolutioninvestors.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Resolution Investors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt; and Chief Research Officer at &lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.impactevaluationlab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Impact Evaluation Lab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;. In these roles, Rob bring his decades of investment experience using research and analysis to improve long term thinking, risk management and what he calls mission authenticity, or the ability to really deliver on the kind of impact one promises. Tune in for a deeply fascinating conversation about how climate investing is maturing and the work that still needs to be done for this new chapter. Enjoy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;On today’s episode, we cover:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;02:41 – Rob’s career journey &amp;amp; love of solving problems&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;05:17 – From Just Capital to Impact Evaluation Lab &amp;amp; Resolution Investors&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;09:52 – How to tell serious impact investors from pretenders&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;14:34 – Is rigor a cost center? Making the ROI case&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;19:29 – A lightning history of sustainable investing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;23:14 – Why sustainable finance is “deeply stressed”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;27:08 – Climate investing as long‑term risk‑adjusted returns&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;29:27 – Two key shifts: longer horizons &amp;amp; real tech expertise&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;33:02 – Rigor, incentives, and how the field grows up&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;36:45 – Why sustainable investing is the future of capital markets&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;39:11 – Closing remarks&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Resources Mentioned&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://resolutioninvestors.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Resolution Investors&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.impactevaluationlab.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Impact Evaluation Lab&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://justcapital.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Just Capital&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.atlasimpactpartners.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Atlas Impact Partners&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.generationim.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Generation Investment Management&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Connect with us&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-brown-8ab80645/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Rob Brown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonrissman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Jason Rissman&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;h3&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Keep up with Invested In Climate&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Sign up for our&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://investedinclimate.com/#signup" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt; Newsletter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/invested-in-climate/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_search_srp_all%3BkrFcZjBVSlW%2BTcjtAzAeow%3D%3D" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li data-list="bullet"&gt;&lt;span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://instagram.com/investedinclimate" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! &lt;strong&gt;Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="https://investedinclimate.com/contact/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"&gt;Get in touch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Invested In Climate

Jason Rissman

Adding Rigor to Climate Finance with Robert Brown, Ep #129

FEB 24, 202639 MIN
Invested In Climate

Adding Rigor to Climate Finance with Robert Brown, Ep #129

FEB 24, 202639 MIN

Description

Frequent listeners know we're always eager to learn about how climate investing needs to change to be more effective. With the attacks on ESG and a new political era, we’re clearly in a new chapter for climate investing and being intentional about the ingredients, language and goals of this new chapter is critical for delivering both solid returns and real impact.Rob Brown argues that its time to step back from overreach and inauthentic impact goals, and fuel this new chapter with rigor. Rob wears a couple of hats as Director of Climate Research at Resolution Investors and Chief Research Officer at Impact Evaluation Lab. In these roles, Rob bring his decades of investment experience using research and analysis to improve long term thinking, risk management and what he calls mission authenticity, or the ability to really deliver on the kind of impact one promises. Tune in for a deeply fascinating conversation about how climate investing is maturing and the work that still needs to be done for this new chapter. Enjoy.On today’s episode, we cover:02:41 – Rob’s career journey & love of solving problems05:17 – From Just Capital to Impact Evaluation Lab & Resolution Investors09:52 – How to tell serious impact investors from pretenders14:34 – Is rigor a cost center? Making the ROI case19:29 – A lightning history of sustainable investing23:14 – Why sustainable finance is “deeply stressed”27:08 – Climate investing as long‑term risk‑adjusted returns29:27 – Two key shifts: longer horizons & real tech expertise33:02 – Rigor, incentives, and how the field grows up36:45 – Why sustainable investing is the future of capital markets39:11 – Closing remarksResources MentionedResolution InvestorsImpact Evaluation Lab.Just CapitalAtlas Impact PartnersGeneration Investment ManagementConnect with usRob BrownJason RissmanKeep up with Invested In ClimateSign up for our NewsletterLinkedInInstagramIf you like what you hear, subscribe and rate to support the show! Have feedback or ideas for future episodes, events, or partnerships? Get in touch!