Andy Yen founded Proton — encrypted email, VPN, cloud storage. Today, over 100 million people worldwide protect their privacy with his service. He deliberately built his company in Switzerland — because of its privacy laws. Proton is one of the very few European tech brands with truly global scale. In this conversation, he explains why Big Tech knows more about you than any intelligence agency, why he thinks it's insane to use Google — and why Europe is about to throw away its biggest advantage. ---------- Sponsoren: (WERBUNG) https://linktr.ee/ungeskriptet_werbepartner Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code UNGESKRIPTET at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/ungeskriptet CHAPTERS: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:02:48) - Proton's Origin: From CERN Cafeteria to Global Privacy Company (00:10:39) - Why Email? Big Tech, Surveillance & the Threat to Democracy (00:22:08) - Crowdfunding, Steve Wozniak & Building Without Investors (00:50:17) - Governments, Jurisdiction & the Swiss Legal Shield (01:10:01) - Europe's Tech Crisis: Missing the Digital Revolution (01:27:18) - AI, China & Who Will Win the Tech Race (02:29:23) - One Last Question Ben: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ungeskriptetbyben?sub_confirmation=1 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ungeskriptet Instagram: https://instagram.com/ben_ungeskriptet X: https://x.com/benungeskriptet?s=21 Andy: Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-yen-03a9676/ X: https://x.com/andyyen https://x.com/ProtonPrivacy Recording date: March 11, 2026 {ungeskriptet} is available here on YouTube and everywhere you get your podcasts. All further links: https://www.ungeskriptet.com My goal is to become Germany’s best podcast host. I promise to bring the most exciting guests to my table. 100% real talk. No bullshit. #bestpodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices