<p>We are back with a wide-ranging one — was the rise of indie rock darlings Geese artificially manufactured? Ben recounts his debate with Dave Grohl about whether popular always means good. They dig into what happens to psychedelics when they get institutionalized. Ione has a life-changing moment at the Mountain Goats show. And The Bens almost played Coachella in 2003.</p><p>Dig deeper into their world at <a href="https://weirdertogether.substack.com/">weirdertogether.substack.com</a></p>