In this raw and deeply moving conversation, Jeff & Jourdan Johnson share their unconventional love story, Jeff’s journey with same sex attraction, and the pain of navigating these realities within the church.Together, they open up about grief, identity, marriage, and the ways the church has often failed to create space for honest conversations around sexuality and suffering.If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, belonging, or holding pain and hope at the same time, this episode is for you.-----------------------------------------Try Amazing+ Free: Access the world’s first total ministry strategy from curriculum and technology, to training and resources, free for 30 days here: https://www.joinamazing.com/freetrial📧 Got feedback or podcast topic suggestions? Email Rita:[email protected] or [email protected] you would like to support the Worship Is My Weapon podcast you can donate to Wearing Justice at https://give.tithe.ly/?formId=0f0e22b... 🙏🏻🕊️🤍0:00 - Coming Up1:04 - Today’s Guest, The Johnsons: Pastoring at Passion6:51 - Ad: Amazing Kids - joinamazing.com7:48 - Same-Sex Attraction: Identity and Sanctification14:28 - Relationship Dynamics: Tensions and Truth25:43 - From a Woman’s Perspective29:33 - No Secrets, Choices to Make35:50 - Open Spaces Podcast41:15 - Discipline in the Struggle46:57 - The Silent and Fearful Church1:01:15 - Processing Grief and Loss with Honesty1:25:26 - Songwriting1:31:26 - Family and TravelIf you're enjoying the show, please rate and review!Follow Rita on ALL Social Media: https://linktr.ee/ritaspringerIf you would like to support the Worship Is My Weapon podcast you can donate to Wearing Justice at https://give.tithe.ly/?formId=0f0e22b... 🙏🏻🕊️🤍💌 Stay connected with Rita by signing up for her exclusive mailing list: https://2f1ja.share.hsforms.com/2ioKtH_9GRNiXq3hp6ykFmw