Australia has long held a policy of segregating people with disability. In this episode we look at how this happens today and talk about why disability pride matters. Kurt Fearnley is a proud person with a disability and Sarah Shands is a mum of a child with a disability. Together they talk with people with disability and some key decision-makers about what life is really like and what we're doing to fix any issues. The challenges, the discrimination, the triumphs — and everything in between.