The Gaslight Effect Podcast

In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern continues the limited series Conversations at the Edge—a space for staying grounded, curious, and connected when conversations move into charged, uncertain, or deeply divided territory. Inspired by Robin's ongoing dialogue with her dear friend Lynn Redleaf, the series is rooted in a simple but urgent belief: we have to be able to talk about what matters, with dignity and respect, even when we don't agree. Robin is joined by writer, journalist, and longtime friend Courtney E. Martin, whose work explores family, community, moral courage, and the messy realities of living by our values. Courtney shares how growing up in polarized Colorado Springs shaped her appetite for difficult conversations, and how her mother's decades-long practice of gathering women and amplifying stories helped form her deep commitment to nuance, belonging, and community. Together, Robin and Courtney discuss what it means to confront privilege without collapsing into shame or defensiveness, including the personal journey behind Courtney's book Learning in Public: Lessons for a Racially Divided America from My Daughter's School. Courtney reflects on the emotional complexity of choosing a Black-majority public school, the relational fallout of making a different choice than her progressive peers, and the pressure of being labeled "performative"—along with how she turns those moments into opportunities for humility, discernment, and deeper alignment. The conversation widens into the everyday practices that sustain us: building long-term friendships, living in intentional community, multi-generational family life, and the power of repair—especially what children can teach us about coming back together after conflict. With warmth, humor, and honesty, this episode is a reminder that connection isn't a luxury—it's a practice, and it's how we keep our humanity intact at the edge. To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com. Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone. Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/drrobinstern/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dr.robinstern/ Twitter (X) - https://twitter.com/RobinSStern LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-stern-220b403a Dr. Robin Stern's Books: The Gaslight Effect The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern continues the limited series Conversations at the Edge—exploring what it takes to stay grounded, curious, and connected when conversations move into charged, uncertain, or deeply divided territory. Rooted in dignity and respect, the series invites us to make space for someone else's ideas without erasing, attacking, or diminishing the person across from us. Robin is joined by two long-time Detroit journalists and thought leaders, Nolan Finley and Stephen Henderson, who spent decades on opposite sides of the editorial page—Nolan as a conservative voice at The Detroit News and Stephen as a progressive voice at The Detroit Free Press. Instead of letting ideology define their relationship, they built a genuine friendship and professional partnership, ultimately co-creating the Great Lakes Civility Project and co-authoring The Civility Book: A Guide to Building Bridges Across the Political Divide. Together, they unpack why "agreeing to disagree" can become avoidance, and what it looks like to find value in disagreement without making it personal. They share the four pillars that have helped them sustain trust through heated debates—dropping assumptions, setting honest goals for conversation, practicing deep listening, and committing to the relationship over time. Robin connects their framework to emotional intelligence, including how strong emotions and today's fear-driven media environment can make civility feel harder—and why emotion regulation and curiosity can be the difference between disconnection and meaningful dialogue. This is a practical, hopeful conversation for anyone navigating family dinners, friendships, workplaces, or communities in a polarized world—and looking for a way to stay in connection without sacrificing integrity. To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com. Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone. Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/drrobinstern/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dr.robinstern/ Twitter (X) - https://twitter.com/RobinSStern LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-stern-220b403a Dr. Robin Stern's Books: The Gaslight Effect The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern launches a new limited series, Conversations at the Edge—exploring what it takes to stay grounded, curious, and connected when discussions move into charged, uncertain, or deeply divided territory. The goal isn't to "win" an argument, but to understand how we can remain in relationship without erasing, attacking, or diminishing the other. For the first episode in the series, Robin is joined by Dr. Sarah Stein Lubrano, author of Don't Talk About Politics: Do Something, for a timely conversation about why so many political conversations leave us feeling more divided—and why "better arguments" rarely change minds. Sarah shares what led her to write the book, from growing up in Washington, D.C. and witnessing polarization up close, to her experiences in prisons, academia, and community work that reshaped how she thinks about power, persuasion, and real-world change. Together, Robin and Sarah unpack the myth of the "marketplace of ideas," why debate often reinforces identity instead of shifting it, and how certainty and authority can create conditions where people second-guess themselves—opening the door to manipulation. At the heart of the conversation is a practical alternative: if we want change, we need to invest less in argument and more in relationships, organizing, and shared action. Sarah explains what research shows actually moves people—deep connection, civic infrastructure, and "gateway actions" that create agency and momentum—while Robin connects these ideas to emotional intelligence, moral injury, and the possibility of "moral beauty" in taking action together. This episode is an invitation to step out of endless discourse and into a different kind of power—one rooted in community, dignity, and doing the work. To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com. Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone. Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/drrobinstern/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dr.robinstern/ Twitter (X) - https://twitter.com/RobinSStern LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-stern-220b403a Dr. Robin Stern's Books: The Gaslight Effect The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

In this special start-of-year episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern sits down with her producer, Mike Lenz, for a more personal conversation, reflecting on 2025 and looking ahead to 2026. Robin shares what felt most meaningful across the past year—especially the human connections that have shaped her work at the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence, in her clinical practice, and through the many powerful conversations on the podcast. Robin and Mike talk about the courage and vulnerability guests brought when sharing their stories, and how those real-life experiences continue to deepen Robin's understanding of what gaslighting is—and what it isn't. Robin reflects on how the term has entered the mainstream, and why it matters to discern gaslighting from conflict, strong influence, or disagreement. She also speaks about a growing focus in her work: how gaslighting can function as a grooming tool in cult dynamics, and why shining light on these patterns helps people reclaim clarity and voice. Looking ahead, Robin introduces a new series launching in January 2026, Conversations at the Edge—created for these divided times, when staying connected can feel hardest. The series is about practicing respectful dialogue, listening with integrity, and making space for perspectives we may not share. Robin closes with an invitation for the new year: honor your feelings as information, stay in your integrity, trust your truth, and remain open to the conversations that help you see more clearly—especially the ones at the edges of your comfort zone. To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com. Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone. Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/drrobinstern/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dr.robinstern/ Twitter (X) - https://twitter.com/RobinSStern LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-stern-220b403a Dr. Robin Stern's Books: The Gaslight Effect The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

In this episode of The Gaslight Effect Podcast, Dr. Robin Stern welcomes Zibby Owens—bestselling author, podcaster, and the founder/CEO of Zibby Media—for a conversation about the stories we're told, the stories we tell ourselves, and how those narratives can help ground us in truth. Zibby has built a women-led, book-loving ecosystem—spanning a boutique publishing house, a beloved independent bookstore in Santa Monica, retreats and events, and her award-winning daily show Totally Booked with Zibby—all designed to deepen connection between readers and authors. Together, Robin and Zibby explore how in today's polarized world, community can be a powerful antidote, and how reading and writing can foster meanigful conversations and help you reclaim your voice. They also talk about Zibby's recent anthology project, On Being Jewish Now—a collection of reflections on identity, belonging, and what it means to keep showing up with honesty in complicated times. In this episode, you'll hear about: How Zibby is building a vibrant community of readers and writers Why stories can be a bridge in a polarized world, helping people feel seen, understood, and less alone The importance of championing women writers and creating more space for their voices Turning a love of books into a mission-driven ecosystem (podcast, publishing, bookshop, retreats) Practical ways to foster connection and belonging—especially when people feel divided or disconnected If you have ever loved a book, you're in the right place. Stories are best when shared. To check out this and other episodes, head over to robinstern.com. Don't forget to subscribe to The Gaslight Effect Podcast on your favorite podcast platform, and be sure to leave us a review to let us know what you think. Until next time, remember: healing is a journey, and you don't have to walk it alone. Dr. Robin Stern's Social Media Links: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/drrobinstern/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/dr.robinstern/ Twitter (X) - https://twitter.com/RobinSStern LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-stern-220b403a Dr. Robin Stern's Books: The Gaslight Effect The Gaslight Effect Recovery Guide Emotional Intelligence for School Leaders Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on The Gaslight Effect Podcast do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.