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<div> <p>Tim Miller, JVL and Sam Stein (filling in for Sarah) discuss Trump’s shambolic approach to the Iran war—no clear objective, mixed signals, and rising economic fallout. As gas prices climb and markets wobble, they ask whether the political damage has already begun, even if the polls haven’t fully caught up.</p><p>Plus: signs of a potential MAGA fracture, ICE at airports, a look inside the grift behind Project 2025, and a disturbing interview with Greg Bovino.</p><p>Visit <a href="https://Upwork.com">https://Upwork.com</a> right now and post your job for free.</p><p>It’s time to turn those “What Ifs” into  CHA CHING with Shopify today. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at <a href="https://shopify.com/thenextlevel">https://shopify.com/thenextlevel</a>. </p><p>Upgrade your sleep during Boll &amp; Branch’s Annual Spring Event. Take off 20% sitewide plus free shipping at <a href="https://BollAndBranch.com/nextlevel">https://BollAndBranch.com/nextlevel</a> with code nextlevel.</p></div>

<div> <p>Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, and JVL were live in Austin talking about Trump’s Iran war, the cascading economic fallout, and growing global instability. As gas prices spike and allies react, the conversation turns darker: how bad could this get—and what it says about America right now.</p><p>Make laundry day the best day of the week! Get 20% off your entire order @LaundrySauce with code THENEXTLEVEL at <a href="https://laundrysauce.com/THENEXTLEVEL">https://laundrysauce.com/THENEXTLEVEL</a> #laundrysaucepod </p><p>To get 6 bottles of wine for $39.99, head to <a href="https://NakedWines.com/THENEXTLEVEL">https://NakedWines.com/THENEXTLEVEL</a> and use code THENEXTLEVEL for both the code AND PASSWORD.</p><p>Go to <a href="https://GetSoul.com">https://GetSoul.com</a> and use the code THENEXTLEVEL for 30% off.</p></div>

<div> <p>Paid members of The Bulwark can watch the FULL episode of The Secret Podcast.</p><p>JVL and Sarah Longwell discuss the Trump administration’s stumble into an Iranian conflict that betrays its "no more wars" promise. They analyze the sudden resignation of Joe Kent over foreign wars, Tulsi Gabbard’s surreal FBI testimony regarding Fulton County ballots, and the looming "bloodbath" within a fracturing Republican coalition.</p><p>Pre-order Sarah’s book, How to Eat an Elephant, coming in September: <a href="https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/how-to-eat-an-elephant-9781250464170/">https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/how-to-eat-an-elephant-9781250464170/</a></p></div>

<div> <p>Sarah Longwell and JVL talk about what happens if Trump doesn't TACO and pull the plug on the Iran war excursion after things go from messy to bad. Not great!</p><p>Also: What happens if we know how to reform the system, but the system is so ossified that it can't be reformed? And are The People, in fact, the worst?</p><p>Pre-order Sarah's book, How to Eat an Elephant, coming in September<br><a href="https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/how-to-eat-an-elephant-9781250464170/">https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/how-to-eat-an-elephant-9781250464170/</a></p></div>

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