In part two of two extra episodes of these edutaining easy-listening podcasts where the conversationalists aren’t shy about exploring the causes, symptoms and solutions when it comes to the climate, you’ll find Juliet and Simon, as ever, discussing serious topical sustainability stories and cultural affairs while they chat with thought-provoking experts — in this case, thought leaders from the luxury travel industry.

Topics included…

How Women Are Transforming Conservation with Suzanne Bayly of Classic Portfolio and Nwabisa Mjjoli of Weeva

Why The Best Guest Experiences Also Achieve Impact with Louise Cottar of Cottar's Safaris

The Secrets to Sustainable Luxury Success with Ruth Crichton and Clayton Niemand from Grootbos

The Importance of Having a Sustainability Manager with Prince Ngomane from Tswalu Kalahari

Simon, as ever, asks the burning questions — and is there to ensure every conversation also leads to much laughter — however sober the subject matter!

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We Are Africa took place in Cape Town's DHL Stadium, May 2023.

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In this episode we also referenced…

Uthando’s work connecting tourism with community development projects https://www.uthandosa.org

The book 'Mandela: My Prisoner, My Friend' by Christo Brand

Elizabeth Wathuti https://www.instagram.com/lizwathuti

Wangari Maathai https://www.instagram.com/wangari_maathai/

Vanessa Nakate https://www.instagram.com/vanessanakate1

Maybe you’re wondering: how can international travel ever be sustainable?

Juliet says: "There are 54 countries in Africa, and collectively they are responsible for less than 4% of the world's CO2 emissions — and yet this is the most vulnerable region in the world when it comes to the climate emergency. The UN puts this down to restricted socio-economic growth in the continent: and when it comes to this community of impact-driven luxury travel hosts, their work bringing in visitors from around the world can and does make a huge difference, since the result of those in the Global North making better travel decisions can mean vital wealth distribution in the fight for better socio-economic uplift in communities that are the most vulnerable to climate change.”