Most people think turning off location services protects them from being tracked. It doesn't. In this interview, David Dunn from privacy-focused cellular provider Cape breaks down what carriers actually collect, how threats like IMSI catchers and SIM swaps work, and how Cape is building a mobile network specifically designed to minimize that exposure.🔗 SOURCES & LINKS• Cape: https://www.cape.co• Cape + Proton collab: https://www.cape.co/cape-and-proton⏱️ TIMESTAMPS00:00:00 INTRO00:01:01 WHAT CELLULAR CARRIERS SEE00:02:50 THE CONCERNS00:04:08 ABUSE OF DATA00:05:28 LTT SIM SWAP ATTACK00:06:33 PHONE CALL BEHIND-THE-SCENES00:12:24 CELL TOWER TRIANGULATION & GEOFENCING00:15:32 LOCATION SERVICES00:16:25 CALL DATA & SMS RECORDS00:19:24 SMS VS. EMAIL SECURITY00:20:23 SIM SWAPPING + IMSI CATCHERS00:24:09 CELL TOWER TRIANGULATION + GEOFENCING SOLUTIONS00:26:38 CALL DATA RECORD + SMS SOLUTIONS00:28:48 WI-FI CALLING00:30:54 SS7 SIGNALING ATTACK PROTECTION00:32:25 4G VS. 5G PRIVACY00:36:34 USER AGENTS + CUSTOM ROMS00:42:15 DEVICE PROTECTION00:46:06 CAPE'S APPROACH00:55:01 MOBILE CORE00:59:18 CDR DELETION01:00:06 IMSI ROTATION01:00:52 OTHER USER CONFIGURABLE OPTIONS01:04:05 PHONE NUMBER REPUTATION01:05:29 ISSUES WITH PRIVACY TOOLS01:08:22 OBSCURA01:10:48 REGISTRATION01:13:04 TRUST & VERIFICATION01:15:37 COMPATIBILITY01:17:33 AVAILABILITY01:17:54 ROAMING01:18:36 LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUESTS01:21:15 PALANTIR01:23:25 PROTON PARTNERSHIP01:25:05 WHO IS CAPE FOR?01:26:43 TELL US SOMETHING SHOCKING01:29:28 OUTRO🎥 VIDEOWatch on YouTube 🧡 SUPPORT TECHLOREKeep Techlore Talks independent & growing: ★ Support this podcast ★