The Quantum Biology Collective Podcast

📺 Watch the Video on Spotify, YouTube & RumbleJoin our FREE CommunityOne in two cats will get cancer. One in three dogs. Performance horses are kept in stalls, fed processed kibble-equivalent feed, and pushed to their physical limits — and still their cancer rates don't come close. Jackie Jolie spent two decades in that world before realizing what the differentiating variable was. It wasn't diet. It wasn't genetics. It was light.Jackie Jolie is an equine and canine bodyworker with close to 20 years of experience in animal rehabilitation and performance. After healing her own Lyme disease and persistent hormonal dysfunction through quantum biology and changes to her light environment — without hormone replacement — she founded AnimaSol (formerly EquiSol) to bring red and near-infrared light therapy to dogs, cats, and horses. Find her at animasol.life.What You'll LearnWhy cancer rates in cats and dogs have reached epidemic levels — and what domesticated horses can teach us about the root causeHow red and near-infrared light interact with the mitochondria to produce energy, reduce inflammation, and accelerate tissue repairThe surprising connection between light exposure and blood sugar — and why 10 minutes of red/NIR light can shift your metabolic markersWhy agricultural science has been demonstrating light's hormonal power for generations — and what that means for your pets (and you)How to think about red and near-infrared light as a supplement your pet is already deficient in, regardless of age or diagnosisTwo detailed case studies: a fully paralyzed Yorkshire Terrier who walked in 10 days, and a severe peroneal hernia that resolved without surgery in six monthsWhat to look for in a red light therapy device — and why near-infrared must be included alongside red wavelengthsTimestamps00:00 Why Pets Get Sick Today00:43 Meet Jackie Jolie02:58 Jackie’s Lyme Disease Wake-Up06:31 How Light Changed Everything08:42 The Rise of Cancer in Pets12:11 Indoor Cats and Environmental Stressors20:02 Light, Blood Sugar, and Metabolism25:59 Red Light Therapy for Animals28:14 How Red Light Therapy Works30:14 Red Light vs Anti-Inflammatory Drugs30:49 Risks of Arthritis Injections in Pets32:17 LED Safety and What to Know33:11 Performance and Athletic Recovery35:33 How Injuries Heal With Light37:06 Light as a Daily Health Tool42:26 Hype vs Skepticism Around Light Therapy44:23 Paralysis Recovery Case Study47:08 Hernia Recovery Case Study51:53 Research and Horse Studies57:29 Where to Find Anima Soul58:55 Wrap-Up and Final ThoughtsKey ConceptsPhotobiomodulation (PBM): The use of red and near-infrared light to stimulate biological processes at the cellular level. Over 7,000 peer-reviewed studies and counting. Also called red light therapy, though that term technically covers only part of the spectrum.Red vs. Near-Infrared: Red light (roughly 620–700nm) penetrates 5–10mm — effective for skin, collagen, and surface circulation. Near-infrared (700–1100nm) reaches bone marrow, nerves, and deep soft tissue. Effective devices include both.Mitochondria: The cellular organelles responsible for producing ATP (energy), structured water, and heat. Red and NIR light directly stimulate the mitochondrial electron transport chain, making these processes faster and more efficient. Mitochondrial health is now understood to be central to metabolic, immune, and neurological function.Redox Potential: A measure of the body's ability to manage oxidative stress and mount immune responses. Jackie's Lyme disease episode, she argues, was made possible by years of lowered redox from light deficiency — and subsequent tick bites produced no illness once her redox was restored.Light Deficiency: The premise that modern indoor living has created a systemic, near-universal deficiency in red and near-infrared wavelengths — wavelengths that would have been available essentially continuously in an outdoor ancestral environment. Framed by researchers as the "21st century scurvy."Resources MentionedGlenn Jeffery — Researcher whose work includes the finding that 10 minutes of red/NIR light exposure reduces blood sugar by 30%; also the ICU study showing patients receiving red/NIR left intensive care 30% faster. (University College London)Scott Zimmerman — Colleague of Jeffery's; has described chronic red/NIR light deficiency as analogous to scurvy — a foundational deficiency driving widespread dysfunctionJack Kruse — Neurosurgeon and quantum biology educator whose work on light, water, and magnetism introduced Jackie to this fieldJim Laird — Strength coach who connected Jackie to quantum biology; previous QBC guestAnimaSol — Jackie's company; red and near-infrared light therapy blankets for dogs, cats, and horses. animasol.lifeIAQB Practice-Based Research Network (PBRN) — The framework Jackie is exploring for formalizing her animal case studies into publishable evidenceConnect with Jackie JolieJackie's case studies are a window into what becomes possible when we stop treating light as optional. If this episode is prompting you to think differently about your own practice — human or animal — the IAQB Practice-Based Research Network is designed for exactly this: turning field observations into evidence that matters. Learn more at iaqb.org.Website: https://www.animasol.life/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Animasol.life/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/anima__sol/There's more to QBC: You can join the FREE QBC online community here: https://qbcpod.com/freecommunityThe Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, a non profit organization translating the new science into practical application: https://www.iaqb.foundation/certificationFrom our sponsor: For red light therapy devices, blue blocking glasses, circadian friendly nightlights & more, visit boncharge.com and enter QBC in the discount box at checkout.MyCircadianAppDownload to your device from the App Store, use code QBCPOD. Make it easy to get your light right: this app tracks everything you need to have a circadian optimised life. Link: https://get.mycircadianapp.com/cXOl/QBCAPPRecommended Products:Lifewave phototherapy patches. Highly recommended for women 45+ or anyone with a condition or symptom they'd like to see shift. Start with x39.Purchase retail: https://lifewave.com/qbcpodcast/store/products/40825027-6466-4cb8-92d3-dfc318d34a65For more info from Meredith, fill out this form: https://qbcpod.com/patches/Join Us On Social Instagram: https://instagram.com/quantumbiologycollectiveFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/QuantumHealthTVRumble: https://rumble.com/c/QuantumBiologyCollective?e9s=src_v1_clrX/Twitter: https://x.com/QBCPODIAQB ResourcesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iaqb.ceThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podscribe - https://podscribe.com/privacy

📺 Watch the Video on Spotify, YouTube & RumbleJoin our FREE Community"Almost everyone in the modern world is running on 50% capacity and not even realizing it.""Wild animals don't need to think about what they're doing, they just do it. And they do it because it feels good and it feels right.""There are insights that you can only get when your mind is sufficiently trained in a breadth of areas."Cameron Borg is a science communicator and host of the Ricci Flow podcast — and one of the clearest translators working at the intersection of quantum biology and real-world health. In this conversation, we go deep: from the philosophical foundations of why all biology is quantum biology, to the specific mechanism by which near-infrared light powers your mitochondria, to the impossible-to-prove-but-impossible-to-ignore question of non-native EMFs. And then Cameron lands it all in the most practical place possible. Stop overthinking it. Go outside.Cameron Borg is the host of the Ricci Flow podcast, where he interviews scientists, researchers, and practitioners at the frontier of biology, physics, and human health. Known for his ability to translate complex science into clear, grounded thinking, Cameron has spoken with some of the leading figures in quantum biology, circadian medicine, and bioenergetics. He is based in Sweden and writes on Substack.What You'll LearnWhy calling it "quantum biology" implies there's a non-quantum biology — and why that framing is the field's biggest problemHow near-infrared light does a "random walk" through your body, donating vibrational energy to the electron transport chain along the wayWhy your body evolved to be transparent in the exact wavelength range where most solar photons land — and what that means for metabolismThe Prigogine story: how a classically trained pianist won the Nobel Prize by asking a question physicists weren't askingWhy non-native EMFs are a hyper-novel exposure — not just more of what we've always had, but something our entire evolutionary line has never encounteredWhy trying to understand this scientifically often makes people do it worse — and what to do insteadCameron's actual daily approach: surprisingly lax, and entirely grounded in evolutionary logicTimestamps00:00 Studying Life Instead of Disease00:19 The Shift Into Quantum Biology02:09 Meet Cameron Borg03:37 Resources and Where to Start06:06 What Quantum Biology Means in Practice08:26 Examples of Quantum Effects in Biology13:45 Reductionism vs a Whole-System View of Health18:29 Rethinking Evolution Through a Quantum Lens21:41 Translating Between Science and “Woo”28:14 Art, Culture, and Scientific Insight35:15 Light Moving Through the Body36:20 Understanding Near Infrared Light37:12 How Photons Behave Inside Cells38:57 Why Metabolism Depends on Light42:04 The Energy Deficit of Modern Indoor Living43:29 The Sun’s Role in Driving Complexity47:29 Why People Feel Better Outdoors51:12 The Debate Around Non-Native EMFs54:43 Why EMF Research Is So Challenging01:01:44 Practical Lifestyle Changes That Actually Matter01:09:16 Closing Thoughts and Wrap-UpKey Concepts GlossaryNear-infrared light (NIR): Wavelengths (~700–1400nm) that fall in a tissue and water transparency window, allowing penetration deep into the body rather than being absorbed at the surface.Electron transport chain (ETC): A series of mitochondrial protein complexes that transfer electrons to produce ATP. NIR photons appear to lower the activation energy thresholds between steps.Principle of superposition: When two electromagnetic fields occupy the same space, they combine into a new, different field. External non-native EMFs superimpose on the body's own endogenous field, altering it.Negentropy: The capacity of living systems to maintain or increase order, apparently opposing the second law of thermodynamics.Hyper-novel exposure: An environmental stimulus not just quantitatively different from ancestral norms, but categorically new — something our entire evolutionary lineage has never encountered.Resources MentionedRicci Flow Podcast — Cameron BorgCameron Borg's SubstackQuantum Evolution — John Joe McFadden (2001)What is Life? — Erwin Schrödinger (foreword Roger Penrose, 1991)The Origins of Life — Eric Smith & Harold MorowitzCells, Gels and the Engines of Life — Gerald PollackHow the Hippies Saved Physics — David Kaiser (mentioned by Meredith)IAQB Call to ActionIf this episode resonated — if you found yourself thinking "this makes sense, but I want to know how to actually apply it" — the IAQB certification program is where practitioners go to do exactly that. It's rigorous, grounded, and built for the people who want more than a podcast rabbit hole. Learn more at https://www.iaqb.foundation/aqb-certificationConnect with Cameron BorgSubstack: https://ricciflow.substack.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ricciflownutrition/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RicciFlowNutritionX: https://x.com/ricciflowhealthLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cameron-borg/There's more to QBC: You can join the FREE QBC online community here: https://qbcpod.com/freecommunityThe Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, a non profit organization translating the new science into practical application: https://www.iaqb.foundation/certificationFrom our sponsor: For red light therapy devices, blue blocking glasses, circadian friendly nightlights & more, visit boncharge.com and enter QBC in the discount box at checkout.MyCircadianAppDownload to your device from the App Store, use code QBCPOD. Make it easy to get your light right: this app tracks everything you need to have a circadian optimised life. Link: https://get.mycircadianapp.com/cXOl/QBCAPPRecommended Products:Lifewave phototherapy patches. Highly recommended for women 45+ or anyone with a condition or symptom they'd like to see shift. Start with x39.Purchase retail: https://lifewave.com/qbcpodcast/store/products/40825027-6466-4cb8-92d3-dfc318d34a65For more info from Meredith, fill out this form: https://qbcpod.com/patches/Join Us On Social Instagram: https://instagram.com/quantumbiologycollectiveFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/QuantumHealthTVRumble: https://rumble.com/c/QuantumBiologyCollective?e9s=src_v1_clrX/Twitter: https://x.com/QBCPODIAQB ResourcesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iaqb.ceThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podscribe - https://podscribe.com/privacy

📺 Watch the Video on Spotify, YouTube & RumbleJoin our FREE CommunityWhat if your light environment was the missing variable in your healing journey? In this episode, Jai Kapoor and Daniel White — co-founders of InRhythm and two people who reversed serious autoimmune conditions through circadian biology — share one of the most remarkable recovery stories we've ever featured. You'll learn why circadian rhythms behave like biological infrastructure rather than a lifestyle tip, what infrared light does that modern LEDs can't, and why the future of human health may look less like a supplement stack and more like water sanitation.Connect with Daniel White & Jai KapoorWebsite: https://www.inrhythm.earth/Instagram - In Rhythm: https://www.instagram.com/inrhythm.earthInstagram - Daniel White: https://www.instagram.com/daniellloydwhiteFull show notes, research links, and transcript excerpt at qbcpod.com.There's more to QBC: You can join the FREE QBC online community here: https://qbcpod.com/freecommunityThe Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, a non profit organization translating the new science into practical application: https://www.iaqb.foundation/certificationFrom our sponsor: For red light therapy devices, blue blocking glasses, circadian friendly nightlights & more, visit boncharge.com and enter QBC in the discount box at checkout.MyCircadianAppDownload to your device from the App Store, use code QBCPOD. Make it easy to get your light right: this app tracks everything you need to have a circadian optimised life. Link: https://get.mycircadianapp.com/cXOl/QBCAPPRecommended Products:Lifewave phototherapy patches. Highly recommended for women 45+ or anyone with a condition or symptom they'd like to see shift. Start with x39.Purchase retail: https://lifewave.com/qbcpodcast/store/products/40825027-6466-4cb8-92d3-dfc318d34a65For more info from Meredith, fill out this form: https://qbcpod.com/patches/Join Us On Social Instagram: https://instagram.com/quantumbiologycollectiveFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/QuantumHealthTVRumble: https://rumble.com/c/QuantumBiologyCollective?e9s=src_v1_clrX/Twitter: https://x.com/QBCPODIAQB ResourcesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iaqb.ceThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podscribe - https://podscribe.com/privacy

📺 Watch the Video on Spotify, YouTube & RumbleJoin our FREE CommunityFor every hour morning light is delayed, BMI increases by over a point — and most of us are getting nowhere near enough lux. Sarah Kleiner, founder of Sarah Kleiner Wellness, Board Certified in Applied Quantum Biology from the ANMCB, and host of the top 2% podcast Evolving Wellness, breaks down the light variable that could be undermining your metabolism, weight, and sleep.You'll walk away knowing:Why lux — not just blue light — is the brightness signal driving your metabolism and weight regulationWhy lux exposure is cumulative and how to track and optimize it throughout your dayWhat infrared light does for your mitochondria and why modern environments have almost entirely stripped it awayConnect with Sarah KleinerDownload MyCircadianApp (with the lux meter!) in the app store on your device. Use code QBCPOD App website: MyCircadianApp.comApp IG: https://www.instagram.com/mycircadianapp/Sarah’s Substack: https://substack.com/@sarahkleinerwellnessSarah’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/sarahkleinerwellnessSarah’s website: https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.comFull show notes, research links, and transcript excerpt at qbcpod.com.There's more to QBC: You can join the FREE QBC online community here: https://qbcpod.com/freecommunityThe Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, a non profit organization translating the new science into practical application: https://www.iaqb.foundation/certificationFrom our sponsor: For red light therapy devices, blue blocking glasses, circadian friendly nightlights & more, visit boncharge.com and enter QBC in the discount box at checkout.MyCircadianAppDownload to your device from the App Store, use code QBCPOD. Make it easy to get your light right: this app tracks everything you need to have a circadian optimised life. Link: https://get.mycircadianapp.com/cXOl/QBCAPPRecommended Products:Lifewave phototherapy patches. Highly recommended for women 45+ or anyone with a condition or symptom they'd like to see shift. Start with x39.Purchase retail: https://lifewave.com/qbcpodcast/store/products/40825027-6466-4cb8-92d3-dfc318d34a65For more info from Meredith, fill out this form: https://qbcpod.com/patches/Join Us On Social Instagram: https://instagram.com/quantumbiologycollectiveFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/QuantumHealthTVRumble: https://rumble.com/c/QuantumBiologyCollective?e9s=src_v1_clrX/Twitter: https://x.com/QBCPODIAQB ResourcesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iaqb.ceThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podscribe - https://podscribe.com/privacy

📺 Watch the Video on Spotify, YouTube & RumbleJoin our FREE CommunityPeter Cowan: the quantum biology practitioner, former WiFi firmware engineer, musician, and self-described high school dropout who sparked a global conversation about EMFs and injuries. A single post on X connecting the San Francisco 49ers' alarming injury rate to the electromagnetic fields generated by a nearby electrical substation exploded to over 22 million views, landed in the Washington Post, and was covered by mainstream media all over the world.In this episode Peter unpacks the biophysical mechanisms behind his hypothesis, explaining how non-native electromagnetic fields disrupt the mitochondrial electron transport chain, trigger oxidative stress, reduce cellular water production, and ultimately compromise the structural integrity of collagen: the connective tissue that tendons, ligaments, and fascia depend on. He then layers in the circadian dimension: how late-night screen exposure, high-kelvin stadium lighting, cross-country travel, and disrupted sleep cycles impair the very repair processes collagen needs to stay strong.Throughout, Peter and Meredith reflect on what this moment means: the declining authority of legacy media, the power of citizen researchers & journalists willing to take public risks, and the growing appetite among ordinary people for answers that the mainstream medical system isn't providing.5 Key TakeawaysElectromagnetic fields can disrupt mitochondrial function, leading to tissue damage.Circadian rhythms are crucial for cellular repair, especially in collagen and tendons.Citizen research can uncover environmental health issues overlooked by mainstream media.Reducing EMF exposure and optimizing light exposure can improve health and resilience.Chronic illnesses often result from multiple stressors, including environmental and lifestyle factors.Memorable Quotes"I never said the substation was the only reason the 49ers are injured. I also never said it was the most important reason. But nobody reads.""It's never one thing. Stressors add on top of each other. And at some point it's the straw that broke the camel's back.""Collagen is 99.7% water by molecular count. The water in collagen is structural — it's not just there to make it wet."Connect with Peter CowanTo support Peter’s research and deep dive into the science: https://peteranthonycowan.substack.com/t/49ers-emf-injury-seriesEMF Consultations: https://www.livingenergywellness.com/Piano Music: https://www.petercowan.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peter.anthony.cowanX: https://x.com/living_energyThere's more to QBC: You can join the FREE QBC online community here: https://qbcpod.com/freecommunityThe Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, a non profit organization translating the new science into practical application: https://www.iaqb.foundation/certificationFrom our sponsor: For red light therapy devices, blue blocking glasses, circadian friendly nightlights & more, visit boncharge.com and enter QBC in the discount box at checkout.MyCircadianAppDownload to your device from the App Store, use code QBCPOD. Make it easy to get your light right: this app tracks everything you need to have a circadian optimised life. Link: https://get.mycircadianapp.com/cXOl/QBCAPPRecommended Products:Lifewave phototherapy patches. Highly recommended for women 45+ or anyone with a condition or symptom they'd like to see shift. Start with x39.Purchase retail: https://lifewave.com/qbcpodcast/store/products/40825027-6466-4cb8-92d3-dfc318d34a65For more info from Meredith, fill out this form: https://qbcpod.com/patches/Join Us On Social Instagram: https://instagram.com/quantumbiologycollectiveFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/QuantumHealthTVRumble: https://rumble.com/c/QuantumBiologyCollective?e9s=src_v1_clrX/Twitter: https://x.com/QBCPODIAQB ResourcesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/iaqb.ceThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podscribe - https://podscribe.com/privacy