In this episode, Glenn and Howard talk about taking a balanced approach to hot new technology - even when everyone around you (especially your business partners) is all in on the promise.

<description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Glenn and Howard talk about taking a balanced approach to hot new technology - even when everyone around you (especially your business partners) is all in on the promise. &lt;/p&gt;</description>

Navigating the Hype Cycle

What does it mean to be data-driven? That is the topic of this episode. Howard and Glenn delve into what it means from an organizational perspective and how it impacts product and engineering. We talk about quantitive and qualitative data, the value of each, and how they are connected. And, we discuss some of the problems in over-indexing on one or the other such as missing out on understanding why you are seeing what you are seeing. Another topic we explore is the danger of confirmation bias in interpreting the data. And we can't forget product analytics, metrics, KPIS, OKRS, and DORA. Just some of the many topics we touch on in this jam-packed session! Links: <ul> <li><a href= "https://uxdesign.cc/striking-a-balance-between-quantitative-and-qualitative-data-3f7a05fa893d"> Striking a balance between Quantitative and Qualitative data</a></li> <li>Product Analytics <ul> <li><a href="https://aamplitude.com/">Amplitude</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.pendo.io/">Pendo</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.heap.io/">Heap</a></li> </ul> </li> <li><a href="https://dora.dev/">DORA</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.whatmatters.com/faqs/okr-meaning-definition-example#:~:text=Summary,set%20and%20enact%20their%20strategies."> OKRs</a></li> </ul>

<description>&lt;p&gt;What does it mean to be data-driven? That is the topic of this episode. Howard and Glenn delve into what it means from an organizational perspective and how it impacts product and engineering. We talk about quantitive and qualitative data, the value of each, and how they are connected. And, we discuss some of the problems in over-indexing on one or the other such as missing out on understanding why you are seeing what you are seeing. Another topic we explore is the danger of confirmation bias in interpreting the data. And we can't forget product analytics, metrics, KPIS, OKRS, and DORA. Just some of the many topics we touch on in this jam-packed session!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Links:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://uxdesign.cc/striking-a-balance-between-quantitative-and-qualitative-data-3f7a05fa893d"&gt; Striking a balance between Quantitative and Qualitative data&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Product Analytics &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://aamplitude.com/"&gt;Amplitude&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.pendo.io/"&gt;Pendo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.heap.io/"&gt;Heap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dora.dev/"&gt;DORA&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.whatmatters.com/faqs/okr-meaning-definition-example#:~:text=Summary,set%20and%20enact%20their%20strategies."&gt; OKRs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;</description>

Being Data-Driven

After a LONG hiatus, we're back and this time we're seriously serious about sticking to keep this going. Unlike the last time when we were just serious. Seriously! We thought we could jump back on a topic that is truly unique, something you've never heard of. Drum roll........Gen AI! Join us for a lively conversation about Gen AI. Will it destroy the world? Has Skynet truly arrived? What are these agent things? We'll answer these questions and more and also shed some light on our experiences in using Gen AI and what tools we recommend. Links from the episode <ul> <li><a href="https://chatgpt.com/">ChatGPT</a></li> <li><a href="https://claude.ai/">Claude</a></li> <li><a href="https://github.com/features/copilot">Github Copilot</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.tabnine.com/">TabNine</a></li> <li><a href="https://codescene.com/">CodeScene</a> (A very cool tool Howard and I talked about offline)</li> <li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GgmudLb6kA">Nilou Salehi's talk on "LLMs for Product Managers" (Reliable AI)</a></li> </ul>

<description>&lt;p&gt;After a LONG hiatus, we're back and this time we're seriously serious about sticking to keep this going. Unlike the last time when we were just serious. Seriously!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; We thought we could jump back on a topic that is truly unique, something you've never heard of. Drum roll........Gen AI!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Join us for a lively conversation about Gen AI.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Will it destroy the world?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Has Skynet truly arrived?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;What are these agent things?&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; We'll answer these questions and more and also shed some light on our experiences in using Gen AI and what tools we recommend.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Links from the episode&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://chatgpt.com/"&gt;ChatGPT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://claude.ai/"&gt;Claude&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/features/copilot"&gt;Github Copilot&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tabnine.com/"&gt;TabNine&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://codescene.com/"&gt;CodeScene&lt;/a&gt; (A very cool tool Howard and I talked about offline)&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GgmudLb6kA"&gt;Nilou Salehi's talk on "LLMs for Product Managers" (Reliable AI)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

We're Back! Also, Generative AI

Roadmaps, why do we have them? Do they help? Is there a better way to do them? These are all topics near and dear to Janna Bastow's heart. We're honored to have her as our guest. In this episode, we go deep into talking about the effectiveness (or ineffectiveness) of traditional roadmaps, and about her pioneering Now Next Later approach. The show is full of gems and insights from Jenna on how to build great products and reduce waste. Thank you Janna! Enjoy! SHOW LINKS: <a href= "https://www.prodpad.com/blog/invented-now-next-later-roadmap/">Why I invented the Now-Next-Later Roadmap</a> <a href="https://www.prodpad.com/">ProdPad</a> <a href= "https://www.mindtheproduct.com/perfecting-product-roadmaps-with-janna-bastow/"> Perfecting product roadmaps with Janna Bastow</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;Roadmaps, why do we have them? Do they help? Is there a better way to do them? These are all topics near and dear to Janna Bastow's heart. We're honored to have her as our guest.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In this episode, we go deep into talking about the effectiveness (or ineffectiveness) of traditional roadmaps, and about her pioneering Now Next Later approach. The show is &lt;em&gt;full&lt;/em&gt; of gems and insights from Jenna on how to build great products and reduce waste. Thank you Janna! Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: 18pt;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SHOW LINKS:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.prodpad.com/blog/invented-now-next-later-roadmap/"&gt;Why I invented the Now-Next-Later Roadmap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.prodpad.com/"&gt;ProdPad&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.mindtheproduct.com/perfecting-product-roadmaps-with-janna-bastow/"&gt; Perfecting product roadmaps with Janna Bastow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

An Interview with Janna Bastow

Minimum Viable Product, what is it that all about? In this episode, Howard and Glenn dive in: <ul> <li>What is MVP and its purpose?</li> <li>Where does the term come from?</li> <li>What common misconceptions, misunderstandings, and fallacies about MVP?</li> <li>How does MVP relate to tech debt and scale?</li> <li>What are the variations of MVP? Minimum Lovable Product, Minimum Effective Dose, Minimum Marketable product</li> </ul> We had a great exchange of ideas and shared our raw personal experiences and perspectives. Enjoy! SHOW LINKS: <ul> <li><a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Lean-Startup-Entrepreneurs-Continuous-Innovation/dp/0307887898"> The Lean Startup</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.forbes.com/sites/theyec/2021/12/08/a-review-of-the-minimum-viable-product-approach/?sh=b6f06be2e207"> A Review Of The Minimum Viable Product Approach</a></li> <li><a href= "https://www.aha.io/blog/the-minimum-lovable-product">The Minimum Lovable Product</a></li> <li><a href= "https://alltheresponsibility.com/the-minimum-effective-dose-of-product-management/"> The Minimum Effective Dose</a> </li> <li><a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@prodsenseco/video/7251048518478056746">My short interview with Nils Davis on MED</a></li> </ul>

<description>&lt;p&gt;Minimum Viable Product, what is it that all about? In this episode, Howard and Glenn dive in:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;What is MVP and its purpose?&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;Where does the term come from?&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;What common misconceptions, misunderstandings, and fallacies about MVP?&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;How does MVP relate to tech debt and scale?&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;What are the variations of MVP? Minimum Lovable Product, Minimum Effective Dose, Minimum Marketable product&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;We had a great exchange of ideas and shared our raw personal experiences and perspectives.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Enjoy!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: 18pt;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SHOW LINKS:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Lean-Startup-Entrepreneurs-Continuous-Innovation/dp/0307887898"&gt; The Lean Startup&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.forbes.com/sites/theyec/2021/12/08/a-review-of-the-minimum-viable-product-approach/?sh=b6f06be2e207"&gt; A Review Of The Minimum Viable Product Approach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.aha.io/blog/the-minimum-lovable-product"&gt;The Minimum Lovable Product&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://alltheresponsibility.com/the-minimum-effective-dose-of-product-management/"&gt; The Minimum Effective Dose&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@prodsenseco/video/7251048518478056746"&gt;My short interview with Nils Davis on MED&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;</description>

What is a Minimally Viable Product?

Howard Dierking and Glenn Block both have more than 20 years on the engineering and product side of the house. The name for the podcast derives from a running joke between them about quitting the tech industry and opening an ice cream business. In each episode, they will look at the intersection of product management and software development and talk through lots of different ways that the two disciplines can work together to build great products - or drive everyone in the organization crazy while wasting time and money.

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