<description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;You've got a great business idea, people want to donate to help, and you're thinking… "What if I just start a nonprofit?" Hold up — let's talk about it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;In this episode, Meghan and I tackle one of the most common (and most frustrating) misconceptions out there — when entrepreneurs try to mix business ventures with nonprofit structures.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Real Listener Question:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;"I'm coaching a small business owner who wants to restore a historic hotel, turn it into an Airbnb, and start a nonprofit to collect donations for the renovation. He says it's a win-win — is that legal?"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;This one had me fired up. We get into why turning your business dream into a "nonprofit project" is usually a fast track to tax fraud, how to tell when an idea crosses the line, and what to do &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style= "font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi;"&gt; instead&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. From historic preservation loopholes to optics in small towns, we unpack all the ways good intentions can turn into bad legal problems. If you've ever thought about forming a nonprofit to fund your own idea — listen to this first.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;What You'll Learn:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Why the IRS cares about your "exempt purpose" more than your passion project&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;How "good ideas" can become tax fraud with one wrong move&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;What happens when your nonprofit owns your business asset&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Why perception matters just as much as legality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Smarter, legal alternatives like crowdfunding and business partnerships&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;How to know when a project is charitable — and when it's just creative entrepreneurship&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Bottom line:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Not every good idea is a nonprofit idea. If your goal is to make money, serve customers, or grow your business, that's awesome — it just means you need a for-profit model, not a charitable one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Learn more about IRS exempt purposes: &lt;a href= "https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exempt-purposes-internal-revenue-code-section-501c3" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exempt-purposes-internal-revenue-code-section-501c3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Previous Episode: &lt;span style="mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"&gt;Can You Convert a Failing Business Into a Nonprofit?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href= "https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct149/"&gt;https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct149/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Episode Transcript: &lt;a href= "https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/CT152_Transcript.pdf"&gt; https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/CT152_Transcript.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Connect with Us&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Jess Birken: &lt;a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/"&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Meghan Heitkamp: &lt;a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-heitkamp-829254115/"&gt;https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-heitkamp-829254115/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Listen &amp; Engage&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Listen on &lt;a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/charity-therapy/id1484605289"&gt; Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href= "https://open.spotify.com/show/5MyIv4pQjloUkMrz5wE2XZ?si=4db9ea586e454a72"&gt; Spotify&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href= "https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJhdDWJL-yvykB1SeDkiP2PPx7HngWY8X&amp;si=FxT4h72gFFZlH4I9"&gt; YouTube&lt;/a&gt; | &lt;a href= "https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/2ba888c9-1439-45f9-834f-f6b332d4a10a/charity-therapy"&gt; Amazon Music&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Rate &amp; Review on &lt;a href= "https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/charity-therapy/id1484605289"&gt; Apple Podcasts&lt;/a&gt;: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Send us your nonprofit questions: &lt;a href= "https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story"&gt;https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Stay Connected&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang= "EN-US"&gt;Sign up for the Birken Law Email list:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://birkenlaw.com/signup/"&gt;https://birkenlaw.com/signup/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US"&gt;Follow us on &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/birkenlaw/"&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jessbirken"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://x.com/JessBirken"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;</description>

Charity Therapy

Jess Birken, MNM, JD

152: That's Called Tax Fraud! | When an Entrepreneur has a "Really Good" Nonprofit Idea

NOV 27, 202520 MIN
Charity Therapy

152: That's Called Tax Fraud! | When an Entrepreneur has a "Really Good" Nonprofit Idea

NOV 27, 202520 MIN

Description

You've got a great business idea, people want to donate to help, and you're thinking… "What if I just start a nonprofit?" Hold up — let's talk about it. In this episode, Meghan and I tackle one of the most common (and most frustrating) misconceptions out there — when entrepreneurs try to mix business ventures with nonprofit structures. Real Listener Question: "I'm coaching a small business owner who wants to restore a historic hotel, turn it into an Airbnb, and start a nonprofit to collect donations for the renovation. He says it's a win-win — is that legal?" This one had me fired up. We get into why turning your business dream into a "nonprofit project" is usually a fast track to tax fraud, how to tell when an idea crosses the line, and what to do instead. From historic preservation loopholes to optics in small towns, we unpack all the ways good intentions can turn into bad legal problems. If you've ever thought about forming a nonprofit to fund your own idea — listen to this first. What You'll Learn: Why the IRS cares about your "exempt purpose" more than your passion project How "good ideas" can become tax fraud with one wrong move What happens when your nonprofit owns your business asset Why perception matters just as much as legality Smarter, legal alternatives like crowdfunding and business partnerships How to know when a project is charitable — and when it's just creative entrepreneurship Bottom line: Not every good idea is a nonprofit idea. If your goal is to make money, serve customers, or grow your business, that's awesome — it just means you need a for-profit model, not a charitable one. Learn more about IRS exempt purposes: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exempt-purposes-internal-revenue-code-section-501c3 Previous Episode: Can You Convert a Failing Business Into a Nonprofit? https://birkenlaw.com/charity-therapy-podcast/ct149/ Episode Transcript: https://birkenlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/CT152_Transcript.pdf Connect with Us Jess Birken: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessbirken/ Meghan Heitkamp: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-heitkamp-829254115/ Listen & Engage Listen on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Amazon Music Rate & Review on Apple Podcasts: Click "Ratings and Reviews" then "Write a Review" Send us your nonprofit questions: https://birkenlaw.com/podcast/#podcast-story Stay Connected Sign up for the Birken Law Email list: https://birkenlaw.com/signup/ Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter