If you’ve ever replayed a conversation in the shower—or staged an entire debate in your head on the way to the grocery store—you already know the brain can be a noisy place. Today, we’re learning how self-talk shapes what you feel, what you do next, and whether you get stuck in a loop. Writer Donna Jackson Nakazawa unpacks why rumination is so sticky—and how to interrupt it—in Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist. And in the second half of the show, psychologist Ethan Kross joins us to share the big ideas from ⁠Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It⁠. 🎁 Save 20% on a Next Big Idea Club membership when you used code PODCAST at⁠ ⁠nextbigideaclub.com⁠⁠ ✉️ Get big ideas in your inbox with our daily newsletter. Subscribe at⁠ ⁠bookoftheday.nextbigideaclub.com⁠⁠ Sponsored By: Homeserve — Go to ⁠homeserve.com/nbid⁠ to find the plan that’s right for you FODZYME. — Finally, you can enjoy your favorite foods without the pain. Go to ⁠icaneatagain.com/daily