Hyperliquid stayed at the center of the conversation as the crew unpacked $HYPE sell pressure, the Assistance Fund, and why the burn narrative matters for how people are valuing the product today. That rolled straight into the bigger distribution question: Coinbase pushing deeper into PERPs and what that means for the “everything app” race versus crypto-native venues like Hyperliquid. A quick policy detour on stablecoins and banking incentives set up why “rails” and regulation can be just as market-moving as new features. Andrew (CEO) and Blake (CMO) from Claynosaurz and HEEBOO then joined to talk consumer IP building and what it takes to make collectibles feel mainstream, not just crypto-native. The back end closed on ApeCoin and ApeChain around ComplexCon-style onboarding, plus a brief reminder that platform design and creator framing still matter when real people take real risk.Special Guests:Andrew - CEO of Claynosaurz & HEEBOO: https://x.com/AndrewsaurPBlake - CMO of Claynosaurz & HEEBOO: https://x.com/smokemonsterLASubscribe:Coffee with Captain Newsletter: https://coffeewithcaptain.beehiiv.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@coffeewithcaptainshowFollow on X:Captain Zwingli: https://x.com/ChrisJourdanThis podcast is for entertainment purposes only. None of the information shared on this podcast is meant to be taken as financial advice. Chris and guest speakers may hold tokens discussedCheck Out:The Everything Token: A Book on Web3 and NFTs