This episode Marcy and Paul are joined by their friend Greg Howard from Realm News podcast! This episode introduces many of the main characters of the upcoming 2 seasons, including Marcy's favorite best fried duo Juliette and Shirley. Ongoing comparisons between the writing of author Hugh Howey and Stephen King abound. Marcy loves the elder love story and the found family themes in the show. Paul can't get enough of deep drilling in his Lessons in Lore. Greg talks catacombs. And everybody loves a Pez Dispenser! Trigger warning for talk of suicide in this episode. If you or a loved one needs help, call 988 for the Mental Health Hotline.

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