Malcolm is on the ground in the US in the final days of the battle for the White House.
The race is tight. If Donald J Trump wins, what would a second term look like? What would it mean for Australia?
With the prospect of Trump riding back into Washington for another four years, Malcolm tells the story of his own interactions with Trump and how he knew immediately the best strategy to adopt to take on a notorious bully.
This is an incredible insight from a former prime minister who dealt directly with the man who could soon become the most powerful leader in the free world again.
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