<p>In this episode I interview journalist and author Dolly Jones (former editor of Vogue.com and strategy director at Condé Nast) about her early work influences before discussing how Dolly accidentally entered fashion journalism, built a long digital career at Vogue during the rise of the internet, and later questioned status-based definitions of success. She discusses success as financial security, motherhood while working full-time, childcare choices, “mum guilt” versus shame, and her book Leaving the Ladder Down, which argues for more honest, celebratory workplace conversations and flexibility for working parents. There&#39;s a lot to get into in this episode and we went there. I loved it. </p><p>Find Dolly on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dolly_jones/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here. </a></p><p>Join the conversation with me on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nickydensonelliott/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here.</a> </p><p>Find out more about me and apply to join The Wilder Collective <a href="https://thewildercollective.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">here</a>. </p><p>The two women Dolly shouted out were: </p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahbennettnash/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Sarah Bennett-Nash</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/juneangelides/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">June Angelides</a></p><p>------</p><p>This episode is supported by <a href="https://www.explore.co.uk/micro-retirement?utm_source=womens-business&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=micro-retirement" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Explore Worldwide</a>, who specialize in small group expert led adventures. Instead of waiting a lifetime for a big, expansive trip, microdose retirement with Explore Adventures designed to give you enough space to reset how you&#39;re thinking, working and living.</p><p>Women rarely give themselves permission to properly pause or have a break. So we often end up waiting for holidays that come when we&#39;re on the brink of burnout. If that sounds familiar, head to the Explore Worldwide website and take their micro retirement quiz. This will help you work out when a break might support where you&#39;re at in life and what kind of adventure you&#39;re craving.</p><p><a href="https://www.explore.co.uk/micro-retirement?utm_source=womens-business&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=micro-retirement" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Take the Micro-Retirement Quiz here </a></p><p>Each one is designed to be immersive and meaningful, not escapist, and they&#39;re solo friendly, which I love for women too. So if the idea of a proper reset resonates, take the quiz</p><p><a href="https://www.explore.co.uk/micro-retirement?utm_source=womens-business&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=micro-retirement" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Take the Micro-Retirement Quiz here</a></p>