Episode summary Donald sits down with longtime friend and retired District Manager Warren Poplin to unpack how to plan successful “music in the park” events—from picking the right artist for the vibe, to power, staging, permits, and the little courtesies that turn musicians into repeat partners. It’s a nuts-and-bolts, field-tested guide for park pros, friends groups, and community partners. Why this matters Live music can be a low-cost, high-impact way to activate parks, diversify audiences, and build community pride. Doing it well protects resources, supports artists, and keeps visitors coming back. Guest Warren Poplin — Retired State Park District Manager, frequent Tailgate Talks guest, and seasoned event operator with decades of on-the-ground experience coordinating concerts and community programs in public spaces. Key takeaways <ul data-start="1046" data-end="2026"> <li data-start="1046" data-end="1215"> Match music to mission & moment: Align genre/energy to the event’s purpose (family day, evening picnic, heritage fest, trail run finish, holiday lighting, etc.). </li> <li data-start="1216" data-end="1382"> Right-sized production wins: Small parks and small budgets do best with solo/duo/acoustic; bigger draws require a defined stage, power plan, and crowd layout. </li> <li data-start="1383" data-end="1523"> Infrastructure is everything: Flat surface, weather plan, safe electrical, clear load-in, and simple signage solve 90% of headaches. </li> <li data-start="1524" data-end="1651"> Respect the resource: Volume limits, turf/tree protection, cable ramping, and wildlife sensitivity keep the park first. </li> <li data-start="1652" data-end="1791"> Treat artists like partners: Good comms, parking, water, green room space, and timely payment = great shows and good word of mouth. </li> <li data-start="1792" data-end="1931"> Clarity in contracts: Scope, set length, sound limits, cancellation/weather clauses, insurance, and deliverables prevent surprises. </li> <li data-start="1932" data-end="2026"> Neighbors count: Noise windows, traffic plans, and end-times maintain community support. </li> </ul> Practical planning checklist Program & booking <ul data-start="2087" data-end="2370"> <li data-start="2087" data-end="2199"> Define goal, audience, and “feel” (acoustic picnic, bluegrass evening, jazz brunch, cultural showcase, etc.) </li> <li data-start="2200" data-end="2287"> Shortlist artists who fit family-friendly content and your decibel/time constraints </li> <li data-start="2288" data-end="2370"> Verify W-9/insurance if required; confirm set length, breaks, and backline needs </li> </ul> Site & layout <ul data-start="2390" data-end="2595"> <li data-start="2390" data-end="2458"> Flat, stable performance area (stage, deck, or ground with mats) </li> <li data-start="2459" data-end="2537"> Audience zones, ADA routes, shade/shelter, and emergency access kept clear </li> <li data-start="2538" data-end="2595"> Cable ramps/ties; protect trees, turf, irrigation heads </li> </ul> Power & sound <ul data-start="2615" data-end="2800"> <li data-start="2615" data-end="2676"> Dedicated 20A circuits near stage; no daisy-chain madness </li> <li data-start="2677" data-end="2751"> If using generators: inverter/quiet type, grounded, away from audience </li> <li data-start="2752" data-end="2800"> Agree on a max SPL and a soundcheck window </li> </ul> Lighting (for evenings) <ul data-start="2830" data-end="2962"> <li data-start="2830" data-end="2910"> Minimum: performer wash + audience path lighting + exit/parking illumination </li> <li data-start="2911" data-end="2962"> Avoid spill into sensitive habitat/roosting areas </li> </ul> Permits & safety <ul data-start="2985" data-end="3180"> <li data-start="2985" data-end="3045"> Noise variance if needed; ranger/volunteer staffing plan </li> <li data-start="3046" data-end="3122"> Weather thresholds (lightning, wind, heavy rain) and pause/cancel script </li> <li data-start="3123" data-end="3180"> First aid, radios, and “show stop” authority identified </li> </ul> Hospitality & courtesies <ul data-start="3211" data-end="3391"> <li data-start="3211" data-end="3269"> Reserved parking near load-in; wagon or cart available </li> <li data-start="3270" data-end="3320"> Water, bathrooms, and a simple green room/tent </li> <li data-start="3321" data-end="3391"> Small thank-you: park swag, day passes, photos, quick thank-you post </li> </ul> Comms & promotion <ul data-start="3415" data-end="3594"> <li data-start="3415" data-end="3457"> Clear run-of-show to artists and staff </li> <li data-start="3458" data-end="3544"> Social posts with artist tag, schedule, what to bring (chairs/blankets), pet rules </li> <li data-start="3545" data-end="3594"> On-site signage for stage, restrooms, and rules </li> </ul> Budget <ul data-start="3607" data-end="3769"> <li data-start="3607" data-end="3701"> Artist fee (with deposit), sound/lighting, staff/overtime, marketing, contingency (10–15%) </li> <li data-start="3702" data-end="3769"> In-kind partners: local music store, friends group, tourism board </li> </ul> Pro tips from the field <ul data-start="3803" data-end="4259"> <li data-start="3803" data-end="3889"> Have a Plan B (and C): Shade tent + quick tarp kit + lightning delay protocol. </li> <li data-start="3890" data-end="3966"> Keep it simple: Fewer inputs = faster soundcheck and fewer failures. </li> <li data-start="3967" data-end="4064"> Front-load courtesy: A friendly load-in + cold water + on-time pay buys endless goodwill. </li> <li data-start="4065" data-end="4164"> Think exits: End on time; light the walks and parking; stagger teardown vs. visitor egress. </li> <li data-start="4165" data-end="4259"> Capture content: Get 3–5 photos/video clips for your next promo reel (with permissions). </li> </ul>

<description>&lt;h3 data-start="171" data-end="190"&gt;Episode summary&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="191" data-end="572"&gt;Donald sits down with longtime friend and retired District Manager &lt;strong data-start="258" data-end="275"&gt;Warren Poplin&lt;/strong&gt; to unpack how to plan successful “music in the park” events—from picking the right artist for the vibe, to power, staging, permits, and the little courtesies that turn musicians into repeat partners. It’s a nuts-and-bolts, field-tested guide for park pros, friends groups, and community partners.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="574" data-end="594"&gt;Why this matters&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="595" data-end="791"&gt;Live music can be a low-cost, high-impact way to activate parks, diversify audiences, and build community pride. Doing it well protects resources, supports artists, and keeps visitors coming back.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="793" data-end="802"&gt;Guest&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="803" data-end="1022"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="803" data-end="820"&gt;Warren Poplin&lt;/strong&gt; — Retired State Park District Manager, frequent Tailgate Talks guest, and seasoned event operator with decades of on-the-ground experience coordinating concerts and community programs in public spaces.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;hr data-start="1024" data-end="1027" /&gt; &lt;h2 data-start="1029" data-end="1045"&gt;Key takeaways&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;ul data-start="1046" data-end="2026"&gt; &lt;li data-start="1046" data-end="1215"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1048" data-end="1215"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1048" data-end="1084"&gt;Match music to mission &amp; moment:&lt;/strong&gt; Align genre/energy to the event’s purpose (family day, evening picnic, heritage fest, trail run finish, holiday lighting, etc.).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1216" data-end="1382"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1218" data-end="1382"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1218" data-end="1250"&gt;Right-sized production wins:&lt;/strong&gt; Small parks and small budgets do best with solo/duo/acoustic; bigger draws require a defined stage, power plan, and crowd layout.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1383" data-end="1523"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1385" data-end="1523"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1385" data-end="1418"&gt;Infrastructure is everything:&lt;/strong&gt; Flat surface, weather plan, safe electrical, clear load-in, and simple signage solve 90% of headaches.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1524" data-end="1651"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1526" data-end="1651"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1526" data-end="1551"&gt;Respect the resource:&lt;/strong&gt; Volume limits, turf/tree protection, cable ramping, and wildlife sensitivity keep the park first.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1652" data-end="1791"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1654" data-end="1791"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1654" data-end="1686"&gt;Treat artists like partners:&lt;/strong&gt; Good comms, parking, water, green room space, and timely payment = great shows and good word of mouth.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1792" data-end="1931"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1794" data-end="1931"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1794" data-end="1819"&gt;Clarity in contracts:&lt;/strong&gt; Scope, set length, sound limits, cancellation/weather clauses, insurance, and deliverables prevent surprises.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1932" data-end="2026"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1934" data-end="2026"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1934" data-end="1954"&gt;Neighbors count:&lt;/strong&gt; Noise windows, traffic plans, and end-times maintain community support.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;hr data-start="2028" data-end="2031" /&gt; &lt;h2 data-start="2033" data-end="2064"&gt;Practical planning checklist&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p data-start="2065" data-end="2086"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2065" data-end="2086"&gt;Program &amp; booking&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2087" data-end="2370"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2087" data-end="2199"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2089" data-end="2199"&gt;Define goal, audience, and “feel” (acoustic picnic, bluegrass evening, jazz brunch, cultural showcase, etc.)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2200" data-end="2287"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2202" data-end="2287"&gt;Shortlist artists who fit family-friendly content and your decibel/time constraints&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2288" data-end="2370"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2290" data-end="2370"&gt;Verify W-9/insurance if required; confirm set length, breaks, and backline needs&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="2372" data-end="2389"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2372" data-end="2389"&gt;Site &amp; layout&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2390" data-end="2595"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2390" data-end="2458"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2392" data-end="2458"&gt;Flat, stable performance area (stage, deck, or ground with mats)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2459" data-end="2537"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2461" data-end="2537"&gt;Audience zones, ADA routes, shade/shelter, and emergency access kept clear&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2538" data-end="2595"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2540" data-end="2595"&gt;Cable ramps/ties; protect trees, turf, irrigation heads&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="2597" data-end="2614"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2597" data-end="2614"&gt;Power &amp; sound&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2615" data-end="2800"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2615" data-end="2676"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2617" data-end="2676"&gt;Dedicated 20A circuits near stage; no daisy-chain madness&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2677" data-end="2751"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2679" data-end="2751"&gt;If using generators: inverter/quiet type, grounded, away from audience&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2752" data-end="2800"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2754" data-end="2800"&gt;Agree on a &lt;strong data-start= "2765" data-end="2776"&gt;max SPL&lt;/strong&gt; and a soundcheck window&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="2802" data-end="2829"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2802" data-end="2829"&gt;Lighting (for evenings)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2830" data-end="2962"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2830" data-end="2910"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2832" data-end="2910"&gt;Minimum: performer wash + audience path lighting + exit/parking illumination&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2911" data-end="2962"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2913" data-end="2962"&gt;Avoid spill into sensitive habitat/roosting areas&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="2964" data-end="2984"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2964" data-end="2984"&gt;Permits &amp; safety&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2985" data-end="3180"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2985" data-end="3045"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2987" data-end="3045"&gt;Noise variance if needed; ranger/volunteer staffing plan&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3046" data-end="3122"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3048" data-end="3122"&gt;Weather thresholds (lightning, wind, heavy rain) and pause/cancel script&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3123" data-end="3180"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3125" data-end="3180"&gt;First aid, radios, and “show stop” authority identified&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="3182" data-end="3210"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="3182" data-end="3210"&gt;Hospitality &amp; courtesies&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="3211" data-end="3391"&gt; &lt;li data-start="3211" data-end="3269"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3213" data-end="3269"&gt;Reserved parking near load-in; wagon or cart available&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3270" data-end="3320"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3272" data-end="3320"&gt;Water, bathrooms, and a simple green room/tent&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3321" data-end="3391"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3323" data-end="3391"&gt;Small thank-you: park swag, day passes, photos, quick thank-you post&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="3393" data-end="3414"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="3393" data-end="3414"&gt;Comms &amp; promotion&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="3415" data-end="3594"&gt; &lt;li data-start="3415" data-end="3457"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3417" data-end="3457"&gt;Clear run-of-show to artists and staff&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3458" data-end="3544"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3460" data-end="3544"&gt;Social posts with artist tag, schedule, what to bring (chairs/blankets), pet rules&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3545" data-end="3594"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3547" data-end="3594"&gt;On-site signage for stage, restrooms, and rules&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p data-start="3596" data-end="3606"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="3596" data-end="3606"&gt;Budget&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul data-start="3607" data-end="3769"&gt; &lt;li data-start="3607" data-end="3701"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3609" data-end="3701"&gt;Artist fee (with deposit), sound/lighting, staff/overtime, marketing, contingency (10–15%)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3702" data-end="3769"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3704" data-end="3769"&gt;In-kind partners: local music store, friends group, tourism board&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;hr data-start="3771" data-end="3774" /&gt; &lt;h2 data-start="3776" data-end="3802"&gt;Pro tips from the field&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;ul data-start="3803" data-end="4259"&gt; &lt;li data-start="3803" data-end="3889"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3805" data-end="3889"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="3805" data-end="3831"&gt;Have a Plan B (and C):&lt;/strong&gt; Shade tent + quick tarp kit + lightning delay protocol.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3890" data-end="3966"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3892" data-end="3966"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="3892" data-end="3911"&gt;Keep it simple:&lt;/strong&gt; Fewer inputs = faster soundcheck and fewer failures.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="3967" data-end="4064"&gt; &lt;p data-start="3969" data-end="4064"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="3969" data-end="3993"&gt;Front-load courtesy:&lt;/strong&gt; A friendly load-in + cold water + on-time pay buys endless goodwill.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="4065" data-end="4164"&gt; &lt;p data-start="4067" data-end="4164"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="4067" data-end="4083"&gt;Think exits:&lt;/strong&gt; End on time; light the walks and parking; stagger teardown vs. visitor egress.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="4165" data-end="4259"&gt; &lt;p data-start="4167" data-end="4259"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="4167" data-end="4187"&gt;Capture content:&lt;/strong&gt; Get 3–5 photos/video clips for your next promo reel (with permissions).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt;</description>

Episode summary Donald sits down with longtime friend and retired District Manager Warren Poplin to unpack how to plan successful “music in the park” events—from picking the right artist for the vibe, to power, staging, permits, and the little...

Music In The Parks

In this thought-provoking episode, Donald welcomes back his good friend and frequent guest, Phil Gaines, former Director of South Carolina State Parks and a trusted voice in the world of leadership and legacy. Phil has been on the show several times before, and each time he brings fresh wisdom, humor, and practical insights. This conversation is no different—it’s a deep dive into what it means to build, live, and leave a legacy. Legacy is a big word, but it’s not something we get to write for ourselves. As Phil reminds us, history decides your legacy. It’s defined by the choices you make, the people you impact, and the influence you carry into the lives of others. More than a title or an accomplishment, legacy is your story in action—it’s the way others remember how you made them feel and the lessons you passed along. Donald and Phil explore the idea that just like nature, our lives and careers are constantly changing. Change isn’t something to fear—it’s a natural and necessary part of growth. They challenge listeners to become lifelong learners who are willing to adapt, pivot, and even reinvent themselves when needed. Whether it’s reading a book, listening to a podcast, or learning from a colleague, every new lesson is an opportunity to “upgrade” who we are and how we lead. The conversation also touches on flexibility and resilience—two qualities that great leaders share. Just as ecosystems thrive by adapting to shifting conditions, so do leaders who remain open, curious, and humble. By consistently tweaking and refining our approach, we not only grow ourselves but also leave a stronger impact on those around us. Phil and Donald’s back-and-forth is both inspiring and practical, filled with personal stories and take-home reminders. They remind us that legacy isn’t about perfection or permanence—it’s about progress, influence, and the willingness to keep learning and improving. Key Themes Discussed <ul data-start="2224" data-end="2774"> <li data-start="2224" data-end="2337"> Defining Legacy: Why it’s less about what you claim and more about how others experience your leadership. </li> <li data-start="2338" data-end="2431"> The Power of Lifelong Learning: How curiosity fuels personal and professional growth. </li> <li data-start="2432" data-end="2552"> Reinvention & Adaptability: Practical insights on pivoting, upgrading, and remaining relevant in changing times. </li> <li data-start="2553" data-end="2662"> Influence Over Achievement: Why the lives you touch will always speak louder than the awards you win. </li> <li data-start="2663" data-end="2774"> Nature as a Teacher: Lessons from the natural world that mirror our own need for change and resilience. </li> </ul> Why This Conversation Matters Whether you’re leading a team, serving your community, or simply navigating your own journey, this episode will encourage you to look at your legacy not as a final destination but as an ongoing process. Legacy is written every day—in how you show up, how you learn, how you adapt, and how you lift others along the way. Phil and Donald leave listeners with this challenge: Keep learning, keep growing, and keep shaping a legacy that others will be proud to remember.

<description>&lt;p data-start="268" data-end="706"&gt;In this thought-provoking episode, Donald welcomes back his good friend and frequent guest, &lt;strong data-start="360" data-end="375"&gt;Phil Gaines&lt;/strong&gt;, former Director of South Carolina State Parks and a trusted voice in the world of leadership and legacy. Phil has been on the show several times before, and each time he brings fresh wisdom, humor, and practical insights. This conversation is no different—it’s a deep dive into what it means to build, live, and leave a legacy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="708" data-end="1108"&gt;Legacy is a big word, but it’s not something we get to write for ourselves. As Phil reminds us, &lt;em data-start="804" data-end="834"&gt;history decides your legacy.&lt;/em&gt; It’s defined by the choices you make, the people you impact, and the influence you carry into the lives of others. More than a title or an accomplishment, legacy is your story in action—it’s the way others remember how you made them feel and the lessons you passed along.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="1110" data-end="1577"&gt;Donald and Phil explore the idea that just like nature, our lives and careers are constantly changing. Change isn’t something to fear—it’s a natural and necessary part of growth. They challenge listeners to become lifelong learners who are willing to adapt, pivot, and even reinvent themselves when needed. Whether it’s reading a book, listening to a podcast, or learning from a colleague, every new lesson is an opportunity to “upgrade” who we are and how we lead.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="1579" data-end="1926"&gt;The conversation also touches on flexibility and resilience—two qualities that great leaders share. Just as ecosystems thrive by adapting to shifting conditions, so do leaders who remain open, curious, and humble. By consistently tweaking and refining our approach, we not only grow ourselves but also leave a stronger impact on those around us.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="1928" data-end="2197"&gt;Phil and Donald’s back-and-forth is both inspiring and practical, filled with personal stories and take-home reminders. They remind us that legacy isn’t about perfection or permanence—it’s about progress, influence, and the willingness to keep learning and improving.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="2199" data-end="2223"&gt;Key Themes Discussed&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2224" data-end="2774"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2224" data-end="2337"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2226" data-end="2337"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2226" data-end="2246"&gt;Defining Legacy:&lt;/strong&gt; Why it’s less about what you claim and more about how others experience your leadership.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2338" data-end="2431"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2340" data-end="2431"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2340" data-end="2375"&gt;The Power of Lifelong Learning:&lt;/strong&gt; How curiosity fuels personal and professional growth.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2432" data-end="2552"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2434" data-end="2552"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2434" data-end="2465"&gt;Reinvention &amp; Adaptability:&lt;/strong&gt; Practical insights on pivoting, upgrading, and remaining relevant in changing times.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2553" data-end="2662"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2555" data-end="2662"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2555" data-end="2586"&gt;Influence Over Achievement:&lt;/strong&gt; Why the lives you touch will always speak louder than the awards you win.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2663" data-end="2774"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2665" data-end="2774"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2665" data-end="2689"&gt;Nature as a Teacher:&lt;/strong&gt; Lessons from the natural world that mirror our own need for change and resilience.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="2776" data-end="2811"&gt;Why This Conversation Matters&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="2812" data-end="3133"&gt;Whether you’re leading a team, serving your community, or simply navigating your own journey, this episode will encourage you to look at your legacy not as a final destination but as an ongoing process. Legacy is written every day—in how you show up, how you learn, how you adapt, and how you lift others along the way.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="3135" data-end="3285"&gt;Phil and Donald leave listeners with this challenge: &lt;em data-start="3188" data-end= "3283"&gt;Keep learning, keep growing, and keep shaping a legacy that others will be proud to remember.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

In this thought-provoking episode, Donald welcomes back his good friend and frequent guest, Phil Gaines, former Director of South Carolina State Parks and a trusted voice in the world of leadership and legacy. Phil has been on the show several times...

Legacy in Motion: Learning, Adapting, and Growing with Phil Gaines

Herding Thunder: Inside the Buffalo Roundup Every year, tens of thousands of visitors gather to witness one of the most dramatic wildlife events in America: the Buffalo Roundup. In this episode of Tailgate Talks, we go behind the scenes to uncover what it takes to move hundreds of bison safely and efficiently across the sweeping prairies of Custer State Park. From managing the herd’s health to coordinating horses, riders, and vehicles, the Buffalo Roundup is a blend of tradition, conservation, and sheer logistical muscle. You’ll hear how rangers, wranglers, and park professionals prepare for the spectacle, the history behind this unique event, and the lessons it offers in leadership, teamwork, and balancing people with wildlife. What You’ll Learn in This Episode <ul data-start="996" data-end="1364"> <li data-start="996" data-end="1047"> The history and purpose of the Buffalo Roundup. </li> <li data-start="1048" data-end="1153"> How park professionals manage logistics, safety, and crowd control for tens of thousands of visitors. </li> <li data-start="1154" data-end="1218"> The role of conservation in maintaining healthy bison herds. </li> <li data-start="1219" data-end="1287"> Leadership and teamwork lessons hidden in the thunder of hooves. </li> <li data-start="1288" data-end="1364"> What it feels like to ride alongside a 2,000-pound animal at full speed. </li> </ul> Why It Matters The Buffalo Roundup is more than a show—it’s a living example of conservation in action, cultural heritage, and the careful balance between people and nature. Whether you’re a park professional, a wildlife enthusiast, or just curious about one of America’s most unique traditions, this episode gives you a rare look inside the roundup. 🎧 Tune in to experience the thundering hooves, the dust of the prairie, and the teamwork it takes to herd thunder. Guest Information Aaron Rodgers Visitor Services Program Manager Custer State Park, South Dakota 📧 <a href= "mailto:aaron.rodgers@state.sd.us">aaron.rodgers@state.sd.us</a> <a href= "mailto:donald@tailgate-talks.com">donald@tailgate-talks.com</a>

<description>&lt;h1 data-start="207" data-end="254"&gt;Herding Thunder: Inside the Buffalo Roundup&lt;/h1&gt; &lt;p data-start="256" data-end="577"&gt;Every year, tens of thousands of visitors gather to witness one of the most dramatic wildlife events in America: the Buffalo Roundup. In this episode of &lt;em data-start= "409" data-end="425"&gt;Tailgate Talks&lt;/em&gt;, we go behind the scenes to uncover what it takes to move hundreds of bison safely and efficiently across the sweeping prairies of Custer State Park.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="579" data-end="957"&gt;From managing the herd’s health to coordinating horses, riders, and vehicles, the Buffalo Roundup is a blend of tradition, conservation, and sheer logistical muscle. You’ll hear how rangers, wranglers, and park professionals prepare for the spectacle, the history behind this unique event, and the lessons it offers in leadership, teamwork, and balancing people with wildlife.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;h2 data-start="959" data-end="995"&gt;What You’ll Learn in This Episode&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;ul data-start="996" data-end="1364"&gt; &lt;li data-start="996" data-end="1047"&gt; &lt;p data-start="998" data-end="1047"&gt;The history and purpose of the Buffalo Roundup.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1048" data-end="1153"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1050" data-end="1153"&gt;How park professionals manage logistics, safety, and crowd control for tens of thousands of visitors.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1154" data-end="1218"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1156" data-end="1218"&gt;The role of conservation in maintaining healthy bison herds.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1219" data-end="1287"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1221" data-end="1287"&gt;Leadership and teamwork lessons hidden in the thunder of hooves.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1288" data-end="1364"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1290" data-end="1364"&gt;What it feels like to ride alongside a 2,000-pound animal at full speed.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;h2 data-start="1366" data-end="1383"&gt;Why It Matters&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p data-start="1384" data-end="1721"&gt;The Buffalo Roundup is more than a show—it’s a living example of conservation in action, cultural heritage, and the careful balance between people and nature. Whether you’re a park professional, a wildlife enthusiast, or just curious about one of America’s most unique traditions, this episode gives you a rare look inside the roundup.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="1723" data-end="1840"&gt;🎧 Tune in to experience the thundering hooves, the dust of the prairie, and the teamwork it takes to herd thunder.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;hr data-start="1842" data-end="1845" /&gt; &lt;h2 data-start="1847" data-end="1869"&gt;Guest Information&lt;/h2&gt; &lt;p data-start="1870" data-end="1989"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1870" data-end="1887"&gt;Aaron Rodgers&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br data-start="1887" data-end="1890" /&gt; Visitor Services Program Manager&lt;br data-start="1922" data-end= "1925" /&gt; Custer State Park, South Dakota&lt;br data-start="1956" data-end= "1959" /&gt; 📧 &lt;a href= "mailto:aaron.rodgers@state.sd.us"&gt;aaron.rodgers@state.sd.us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="1870" data-end="1989"&gt;&lt;a href= "mailto:donald@tailgate-talks.com"&gt;donald@tailgate-talks.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

Herding Thunder: Inside the Buffalo Roundup Every year, tens of thousands of visitors gather to witness one of the most dramatic wildlife events in America: the Buffalo Roundup. In this episode of Tailgate Talks, we go behind the scenes to uncover...

Herding Thunder: Inside the Buffalo Roundup

Donald Forgione — Former Director of 175 Florida State Parks, with 40+ years in ecotourism, leadership, and public service. Now a business owner, speaker, and coach, Donald connects leadership lessons from nature to business. Mike Simmons — Founder of Find My Catalyst, leadership coach, and sales strategist, helping people identify and act on their catalyst for change. Three Key Quotes <ol> <li> Donald Forgione: “Trust is the key to absolutely everything… If they’re not feeling what I’m saying, I might as well throw it out the window.” </li> <li> Mike Simmons: “A revenue challenge is often a culture challenge in disguise. Culture starts with leadership. Leadership starts with self.” </li> <li> Donald Forgione: “Superman ain’t coming. You have to be your own Superman, your own Wonder Woman — and figure it out.” </li> </ol> Mike and Donald explore the deep connections between nature and leadership, revealing how adaptability, trust, and asking the right questions can transform teams and culture. They share real-world lessons from state parks to sales, showing leaders how to align purpose, overcome obstacles, and create environments where people thrive. 5 Key Takeaways – Finding Your Catalyst in Leadership 1. Adaptability is Essential <ul> <li> Nature changes daily, sometimes hourly — so do business environments. </li> <li> Leaders must adjust “sails” when conditions shift, not fight the wind. </li> <li> Like a river finding a new path, flexibility keeps momentum moving forward. </li> </ul> 2. Trust is the Foundation <ul> <li> Without trust, communication falls flat — people must feel you’re genuine. </li> <li> Consistent standards and fairness build credibility. </li> <li> Trust enables teams to follow direction, even in tough changes. </li> </ul> 3. Ask Better Questions <ul> <li> Leaders have an obligation to ask questions others won’t. </li> <li> Tone, timing, and context matter — the “tailgate” setting often works best. </li> <li> Asking opens doors to insight; telling can shut them. </li> </ul> 4. Sales is Everyone’s Job <ul> <li> Selling is solving problems, not pushing products. </li> <li> Every role in an organization impacts customer experience. </li> <li> Internal and external “customers” both require thoughtful service. </li> </ul> 5. Break Down Silos <ul> <li> Customers don’t care which department “owns” the problem. </li> <li> Internal collaboration is as important as external service. </li> <li> Remove political barriers so the mission comes first. </li> </ul> Find your Catalyst at https://findmycatalyst.com Check out Tailgate Talks at https://tailgate-talks.com/speaker-experience/podcasts/  You Can Put the Work in to Practice, and we'd love to hear about it. Listener Challenge: Your Catalyst Connection This week, take 15 minutes to connect one lesson from nature to your work. Step 1 – Observe: Go for a walk in a park, your neighborhood, or any outdoor space. Notice one thing that stands out — a tree’s growth pattern, the way water flows, how animals interact, or even the weather. Step 2 – Reflect: Ask yourself: <ul> <li> What obstacle is this natural element facing? </li> <li> How is it adapting or overcoming? </li> <li> How does this mirror challenges in my team or business? </li> </ul> Step 3 – Act: Identify one small change you can make in your leadership or work this week inspired by that observation. Example: If you see water rerouting around rocks, consider how you can redirect your team’s energy around a roadblock rather than trying to push through it. Share Your Story: Email Mike and Donald with your insight — you might inspire the next podcast conversation.

<description>&lt;p&gt;Donald Forgione — Former Director of 175 Florida State Parks, with 40+ years in ecotourism, leadership, and public service. Now a business owner, speaker, and coach, Donald connects leadership lessons from nature to business. Mike Simmons — Founder of &lt;em&gt;Find My Catalyst&lt;/em&gt;, leadership coach, and sales strategist, helping people identify and act on their catalyst for change.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Three Key Quotes&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ol&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Donald Forgione: “Trust is the key to absolutely everything… If they’re not feeling what I’m saying, I might as well throw it out the window.”&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Mike Simmons: “A revenue challenge is often a culture challenge in disguise. Culture starts with leadership. Leadership starts with self.”&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Donald Forgione: “Superman ain’t coming. You have to be your own Superman, your own Wonder Woman — and figure it out.”&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ol&gt; &lt;p&gt;Mike and Donald explore the deep connections between nature and leadership, revealing how adaptability, trust, and asking the right questions can transform teams and culture. They share real-world lessons from state parks to sales, showing leaders how to align purpose, overcome obstacles, and create environments where people thrive.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;5 Key Takeaways – Finding Your Catalyst in Leadership 1. Adaptability is Essential&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Nature changes daily, sometimes hourly — so do business environments.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Leaders must adjust “sails” when conditions shift, not fight the wind.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Like a river finding a new path, flexibility keeps momentum moving forward.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;2. Trust is the Foundation&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Without trust, communication falls flat — people must feel you’re genuine.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Consistent standards and fairness build credibility.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Trust enables teams to follow direction, even in tough changes.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;3. Ask Better Questions&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Leaders have an obligation to ask questions others won’t.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Tone, timing, and context matter — the “tailgate” setting often works best.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Asking opens doors to insight; telling can shut them.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;4. Sales is Everyone’s Job&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Selling is solving problems, not pushing products.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Every role in an organization impacts customer experience.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Internal and external “customers” both require thoughtful service.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;5. Break Down Silos&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Customers don’t care which department “owns” the problem.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Internal collaboration is as important as external service.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;Remove political barriers so the mission comes first.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Find your Catalyst at https://findmycatalyst.com&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Check out Tailgate Talks at https://tailgate-talks.com/speaker-experience/podcasts/ &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You Can Put the Work in to Practice, and we'd love to hear about it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Listener Challenge: Your Catalyst Connection&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;This week, take 15 minutes to connect one lesson from nature to your work.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Step 1 – Observe: Go for a walk in a park, your neighborhood, or any outdoor space. Notice one thing that stands out — a tree’s growth pattern, the way water flows, how animals interact, or even the weather.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Step 2 – Reflect: Ask yourself:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;What obstacle is this natural element facing?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;How is it adapting or overcoming?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt; &lt;p&gt;How does this mirror challenges in my team or business?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p&gt;Step 3 – Act: Identify one small change you can make in your leadership or work this week inspired by that observation.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Example: If you see water rerouting around rocks, consider how you can redirect your team’s energy around a roadblock rather than trying to push through it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Share Your Story: Email Mike and Donald with your insight — you might inspire the next podcast conversation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Donald Forgione — Former Director of 175 Florida State Parks, with 40+ years in ecotourism, leadership, and public service. Now a business owner, speaker, and coach, Donald connects leadership lessons from nature to business. Mike Simmons —...

From Parks to Boardrooms: Leadership Lessons from Nature

Episode Summary In this episode of Tailgate Talks, Donald Forgione sits down with Nick Wiley, of Ducks Unlimited (DU), to explore how one of the nation’s most recognized conservation nonprofits is partnering with public agencies, private landowners, and park professionals to protect critical habitats and ensure sustainable recreation. From marshland restoration to outdoor education, Nick shares how DU’s work extends far beyond waterfowl. Learn how Ducks Unlimited is building bridges between hunters, biologists, and land managers — and how you can collaborate with them to strengthen your park, refuge, or natural area. Whether you manage a state park, lead a conservation organization, or love the outdoors, this episode will leave you inspired by what’s possible when we work together. Topics Covered <ul data-start="1367" data-end="1813"> <li data-start="1367" data-end="1413"> The mission and history of Ducks Unlimited </li> <li data-start="1414" data-end="1463"> Why wetlands matter (and not just for ducks!) </li> <li data-start="1464" data-end="1539"> DU’s role in supporting state parks, public lands, and recreation areas </li> <li data-start="1540" data-end="1620"> How DU works with partners in government, nonprofits, and the private sector </li> <li data-start="1621" data-end="1697"> Grant programs, land acquisition, and technical assistance opportunities </li> <li data-start="1698" data-end="1755"> Common myths about DU – and the truth behind the camo </li> <li data-start="1756" data-end="1813"> Tips for park professionals interested in collaboration </li> </ul> Guest Bio: Nick Wiley Nick Wiley is a seasoned conservation leader. Nick has helped guide large-scale habitat restoration projects and public-private partnerships across the Americas. His passion for land, water, and wildlife drives DU’s mission to conserve, restore, and manage wetlands and associated habitats for waterfowl — and the people who enjoy them. Resources & Links <ul data-start="2320" data-end="2560"> <li data-start="2320" data-end="2375"> 🌐 <a class="cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2325" data-end= "2373">Ducks Unlimited Website</a> </li> <li data-start="2376" data-end="2424"> 📍 Learn more about DU projects in your area </li> <li data-start="2425" data-end="2487"> 🤝 Connect with a local DU chapter or conservation contact </li> <li data-start="2488" data-end="2560"> 📚 Explore DU’s habitat restoration programs and funding opportunities </li> </ul> Join the Conversation Enjoyed the episode? Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite podcast platform. Please share your thoughts with us using #TailgateTalks and tag Donald on LinkedIn or Facebook. <a href= "mailto:nwiley@ducks.org">nwiley@ducks.org</a> <a href= "mailto:donald@tailgate-talks.com">donald@tailgate-talks.com</a>

<description>&lt;h3 data-start="503" data-end="528"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="507" data-end="526"&gt;Episode Summary&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="529" data-end="874"&gt;In this episode of &lt;em data-start="548" data-end="564"&gt;Tailgate Talks&lt;/em&gt;, Donald Forgione sits down with &lt;strong data-start="597" data-end= "611"&gt;Nick Wiley&lt;/strong&gt;, of Ducks Unlimited (DU), to explore how one of the nation’s most recognized conservation nonprofits is partnering with public agencies, private landowners, and park professionals to protect critical habitats and ensure sustainable recreation.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="876" data-end="1163"&gt;From marshland restoration to outdoor education, Nick shares how DU’s work extends far beyond waterfowl. Learn how Ducks Unlimited is building bridges between hunters, biologists, and land managers — and how you can collaborate with them to strengthen your park, refuge, or natural area.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="1165" data-end="1337"&gt;Whether you manage a state park, lead a conservation organization, or love the outdoors, this episode will leave you inspired by what’s possible when we work together.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;hr data-start="1339" data-end="1342" /&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="1344" data-end="1366"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1348" data-end="1366"&gt;Topics Covered&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;ul data-start="1367" data-end="1813"&gt; &lt;li data-start="1367" data-end="1413"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1369" data-end="1413"&gt;The mission and history of Ducks Unlimited&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1414" data-end="1463"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1416" data-end="1463"&gt;Why wetlands matter (and not just for ducks!)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1464" data-end="1539"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1466" data-end="1539"&gt;DU’s role in supporting state parks, public lands, and recreation areas&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1540" data-end="1620"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1542" data-end="1620"&gt;How DU works with partners in government, nonprofits, and the private sector&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1621" data-end="1697"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1623" data-end="1697"&gt;Grant programs, land acquisition, and technical assistance opportunities&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1698" data-end="1755"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1700" data-end="1755"&gt;Common myths about DU – and the truth behind the camo&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="1756" data-end="1813"&gt; &lt;p data-start="1758" data-end="1813"&gt;Tips for park professionals interested in collaboration&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;hr data-start="1815" data-end="1818" /&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="1820" data-end="1851"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="1824" data-end="1849"&gt;Guest Bio: Nick Wiley&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="1852" data-end="2287"&gt;Nick Wiley is a seasoned conservation leader. Nick has helped guide large-scale habitat restoration projects and public-private partnerships across the Americas. His passion for land, water, and wildlife drives DU’s mission to conserve, restore, and manage wetlands and associated habitats for waterfowl — and the people who enjoy them.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;hr data-start="2289" data-end="2292" /&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="2294" data-end="2319"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2298" data-end="2319"&gt;Resources &amp; Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;ul data-start="2320" data-end="2560"&gt; &lt;li data-start="2320" data-end="2375"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2322" data-end="2375"&gt;🌐 &lt;a class="cursor-pointer" target="_new" rel="noopener" data-start="2325" data-end= "2373"&gt;Ducks Unlimited Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2376" data-end="2424"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2378" data-end="2424"&gt;📍 Learn more about DU projects in your area&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2425" data-end="2487"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2427" data-end="2487"&gt;🤝 Connect with a local DU chapter or conservation contact&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li data-start="2488" data-end="2560"&gt; &lt;p data-start="2490" data-end="2560"&gt;📚 Explore DU’s habitat restoration programs and funding opportunities&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;hr data-start="2562" data-end="2565" /&gt; &lt;h3 data-start="2567" data-end="2598"&gt;&lt;strong data-start="2571" data-end="2596"&gt;Join the Conversation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h3&gt; &lt;p data-start="2599" data-end="2799"&gt;Enjoyed the episode? Don’t forget to &lt;strong data-start="2636" data-end= "2649"&gt;subscribe&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong data-start="2651" data-end= "2659"&gt;rate&lt;/strong&gt;, and &lt;strong data-start="2665" data-end= "2675"&gt;review&lt;/strong&gt; on your favorite podcast platform. Please share your thoughts with us using #TailgateTalks and tag Donald on LinkedIn or Facebook.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="2599" data-end="2799"&gt;&lt;a href= "mailto:nwiley@ducks.org"&gt;nwiley@ducks.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p data-start="2599" data-end="2799"&gt;&lt;a href= "mailto:donald@tailgate-talks.com"&gt;donald@tailgate-talks.com&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;</description>

Episode Summary In this episode of Tailgate Talks, Donald Forgione sits down with Nick Wiley, of Ducks Unlimited (DU), to explore how one of the nation’s most recognized conservation nonprofits is partnering with public agencies, private landowners,...

Wetlands, Wildlife, and Working Together with Ducks Unlimited

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