<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey friends 👋&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You’ve got 43 customers using your product for free, a pilot converting at 4 out of 11, and a franchisor who just announced they’re building your product themselves—for free.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This week’s office hours was a live collision of founders at very different stages, all running into the same underlying problem: they’re optimizing for the wrong thing at the wrong time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;JDM and Cameron tackle five questions live from YouTube and LinkedIn:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;* a funeral home consolidator mid-pricing negotiation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;* a B2C wellness app chasing a launch before knowing who they’re selling to&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;* a CrossFit gym SaaS getting sherlocked by its own franchisor&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;* a baby sleep consultant product that discovered its pilot structure too late&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;* a surf school booking tool trying to solve seasonality before it’s solved willingness to pay.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We break down enterprise pricing psychology, the trap of logo-hunting, why “stoned beach dudes” is not a customer segment problem, and how a transaction-based revenue model might untangle a seasonal billing headache.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We recorded in person again, the rain is visible through the window, Cameron’s deep into &lt;em&gt;Justified,&lt;/em&gt; and JDM is watching Harrison Ford gracefully exit &lt;em&gt;Shrinking&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And, as always, thanks for listening.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;—Cameron and JDM&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Timestamps&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;00:00 Intro &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;02:15 Live Q: When to hold firm vs. concede on pricing&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10:30 Q2: Building momentum before MVP launch&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;20:00 Q3: Getting sherlocked by the franchisor&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;25:00 Q4: 4 out of 11 pilot conversions and what the split actually means&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;30:30 Q5: Union workers who don’t buy their own software&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;36:00 Q6: Seasonality, and when to charge&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;43:30 Frivolous Thoughts: the future of TV (which is now)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit &lt;a href="https://zerototraction.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&amp;#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1"&gt;zerototraction.substack.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>

Traction Lab Podcast

JDM and Cameron Law

When your best customer is also your biggest threat

APR 15, 202648 MIN
Traction Lab Podcast

When your best customer is also your biggest threat

APR 15, 202648 MIN

Description

<p>Hey friends 👋</p><p>You’ve got 43 customers using your product for free, a pilot converting at 4 out of 11, and a franchisor who just announced they’re building your product themselves—for free.</p><p>This week’s office hours was a live collision of founders at very different stages, all running into the same underlying problem: they’re optimizing for the wrong thing at the wrong time.</p><p>JDM and Cameron tackle five questions live from YouTube and LinkedIn:</p><p>* a funeral home consolidator mid-pricing negotiation</p><p>* a B2C wellness app chasing a launch before knowing who they’re selling to</p><p>* a CrossFit gym SaaS getting sherlocked by its own franchisor</p><p>* a baby sleep consultant product that discovered its pilot structure too late</p><p>* a surf school booking tool trying to solve seasonality before it’s solved willingness to pay.</p><p>We break down enterprise pricing psychology, the trap of logo-hunting, why “stoned beach dudes” is not a customer segment problem, and how a transaction-based revenue model might untangle a seasonal billing headache.</p><p>We recorded in person again, the rain is visible through the window, Cameron’s deep into <em>Justified,</em> and JDM is watching Harrison Ford gracefully exit <em>Shrinking</em>.</p><p>And, as always, thanks for listening.</p><p>—Cameron and JDM</p><p>Timestamps</p><p>00:00 Intro </p><p>02:15 Live Q: When to hold firm vs. concede on pricing</p><p>10:30 Q2: Building momentum before MVP launch</p><p>20:00 Q3: Getting sherlocked by the franchisor</p><p>25:00 Q4: 4 out of 11 pilot conversions and what the split actually means</p><p>30:30 Q5: Union workers who don’t buy their own software</p><p>36:00 Q6: Seasonality, and when to charge</p><p>43:30 Frivolous Thoughts: the future of TV (which is now)</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://zerototraction.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_1">zerototraction.substack.com</a>