<p>Pascal Touchon unpacks why the next CAR-T innovations, including allogeneic and in vivo therapies, are going to be so exciting.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cell therapy master outlines his central role in bringing two first‑in‑class cell therapies to patients: Kymriah, the first approved CAR‑T, and Ebvallo, the first approved allogeneic T‑cell therapy. </p><p><br /></p><p>We also explore his new position as an operating partner at Jeito and how we need to work harder to find Europe’s hidden biotech gems.</p><p><br /></p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><br /></p><p>Get expert legal advisory support for growing your biotech from Osborne Clarke at <a href="https://bit.ly/oc-flotbio" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://bit.ly/oc-flotbio</a></p><p><br /></p><p>----------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p><br /></p><p>⭐️ ABOUT THE SPEAKER</p><p><br /></p><p>With many years of experience in big pharma, Pascal had top-level positions at Novartis Oncology. He later served as CEO, and most recently Chairman, of Atara Biotherapeutics. Alongside his Jeito role, he sits on the boards of companies including Ipsen, Medincell, Catalym, Xylocor and CDR-Life.</p><p><br /></p><p>🔗 LINKS MENTIONED</p><ul><li>Jeito’s website: <a href="https://www.jeito.life/en/home/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.jeito.life/en/home/</a></li><li>Stefano Portolano, Azafaros | Rare Diseases, Small Molecules Revival | E40: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdaPW7xg_qk" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdaPW7xg_qk</a></li><li>Otello Stampacchia, Omega Funds 🇮🇹 | Competition, Boston &amp; Pasta | E18: <a href="https://flot.bio/episode/otello-stampacchia-omega-funds/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://flot.bio/episode/otello-stampacchia-omega-funds/</a></li><li>Fabrice Chouraqui, Pharming 🇳🇱 | Transgenic Rabbits, Rare Diseases | E43: <a href="https://flot.bio/episode/fabrice-chouraqui-pharming-transgenic-rabbit/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://flot.bio/episode/fabrice-chouraqui-pharming-transgenic-rabbit/</a></li><li>Laurent Levy, Nanobiotix 🇫🇷 | Nanoparticles, Radiotherapy | E45: <a href="https://flot.bio/episode/laurent-levy-nanobiotix-nanoparticles-radiotherapy/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://flot.bio/episode/laurent-levy-nanobiotix-nanoparticles-radiotherapy/</a></li><li>Marc de Garidel, Abivax | How to make two Billion-dollar exits (“smoothly”) | E09: <a href="https://flot.bio/episode/marc-de-garidel-abivax-exit/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://flot.bio/episode/marc-de-garidel-abivax-exit/</a></li></ul><p><br /></p><p>📜 TRANSCRIPT</p><p><br /></p><p>Read the full transcript here: <a href="https://flot.bio/?post_type=episode&amp;p=862" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://flot.bio/episode/pascal-touchon-jeito/</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>💸 DONATE</p><p><br /></p><p>We welcome donations from individuals and businesses to support our podcast and allow us to create even more content: <a href="https://www.paypal.me/PhilipHemme" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.paypal.me/PhilipHemme</a></p><p><br /></p><p>⭐️ SPONSORSHIP</p><p><br /></p><p>Ready to amplify your brand to influential leaders in biotech and biopharma? Contact [email protected] and unlock sponsorship opportunities in our podcasts!</p><p><br /></p><p>🫶 FOLLOW US</p><p><br /></p><ul><li>Newsletter: <a href="http://eepurl.com/h_fnmH" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">http://eepurl.com/h_fnmH</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/flot-bio/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/company/flot-bio/</a></li><li>X (Twitter): <a href="https://x.com/FlotBio" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://x.com/FlotBio</a></li></ul><p><br /></p><p>🙏 LIKE/FOLLOW/REVIEW</p><p><br /></p><p>Did you enjoy the episode? Please hit the like and subscribe button. Also, please let me know your thoughts in the comments below.</p><p><br /></p><p>🎙️ ABOUT FLOT.BIO</p><p><br /></p><p>Flot.bio is a show to watch the best Europeans in biotech to help you grow. Hosted by Philip Hemme. 25k monthly views. Free.</p><p><br /></p><p>⏰ TIMESTAMPS</p><p><br /></p><ul><li>[00:00:00] Intro</li><li>[00:02:40] The rise of Kymriah and Ebvallo</li><li>[00:05:40] CAR-T: crazy innovations and valuations</li><li>[00:20:35] Solid tumor challenges</li><li>[00:23:18] Cell therapy manufacturing and in vivo CAR-T</li><li>[00:31:38] Catching the innovation wave at Jeito Capital</li><li>[00:39:29] VC models and European biotech gems</li><li>[00:52:51] Biotech without borders</li><li>[01:05:49] France’s rising pharma stars </li><li>[01:08:30] Quick-fire questions<br /></li></ul>