In this episode, the conversation explores leadership through the lens of history, philosophy, politics, and human behaviour. The discussion reflects on what ancient thinkers such as Plato and Aristotle can teach modern leaders, while also examining emotional intelligence, self-leadership, decision-making, and the risks of cognitive bias. An engaging discussion on how leaders can balance conviction with humility, manage change, recognise mistakes, and avoid the mental traps that can shape decisions in organisations and public life.