Dive Club 🤿

<p>As one of the fastest growing companies in the world, Lovable is scaling their design team by tapping into the [Dive Talent Network](<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.dive.club/talent-network">https://www.dive.club/talent-network</a>).</p><p>So I interviewed their Head of Design, [Nad Chishtie](<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/nadonomy">https://x.com/nadonomy</a>), to learn everything I can about how to get hired as a designer at Lovable.</p><p>Some highlights:</p><p>- A breakdown of a recent design hire’s portfolio</p><p>- How to avoid getting your portfolio screened out</p><p>- How to crush the later stages of the hiring process</p><p>- How you can win Nad over with side projects alone</p><p>- What to do if you’re not confident in your visual skills</p><p>- The 2 things Nad cares most about when hiring designers</p><p></p><p>- Spotify’s cross-functional squad model (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://medium.com/found-ation/agile-team-organization-a-deep-dive-on-the-spotify-model-f5b32dfc37dd">https://medium.com/found-ation/agile-team-organization-a-deep-dive-on-the-spotify-model-f5b32dfc37dd</a>)</p><p>- Matt’s portfolio (designer hired through Dive Talent Network) (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.lfs.gd/">https://www.lfs.gd/</a>)</p>

<p>What does it look like to own web design for one of the fastest growing AI companies in the world?</p><p>And how do you get that opportunity if you don’t have companies like Apple or Airbnb on your resumé?</p><p>That’s what this episode with [Roman Tesliuk](<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/RomaTesla">https://x.com/RomaTesla</a>) is all about.</p><p>He walks us through the Eleven Labs Figma and talks about the tiniest of design decisions all the way to how he’s building a scalable website system.</p><p>We also go deep into Roman's side projects and all of the ways he's becoming a builder with AI 💪</p><p></p><p>Roman’s App Stacks project - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://appstacks.club/">https://appstacks.club/</a> and portfolio site - <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pixelwrld.co/">https://pixelwrld.co/</a></p>

<p>I’ve probably learned more about visual design from <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/mds">MDS</a> than anyone in the design community.</p><p>So I wanted to go deep into the creative process behind the all-new <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://shiftnudge.com/">Shift Nudge website</a> to see how he explores visual ideas.</p><p>He takes us through his Figma file that is full of <em>very</em> good ideas that didn't ship.</p><p>And he even shows us how he built his own Mosaic tool in v0 which became the core motif of the site.</p><p>So if you're interested in seeing the windy creative process behind one of the truly great designers today then I think you're going to enjoy this one.</p>

<p>I get shown a <em>lot</em> of tool demos and one thing is clear…</p><p>Canvas-based UX will play a pivotal role in how we interface with AI.</p><p>It’s a big reason why Figma just bought <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.figma.com/blog/welcome-weavy-to-figma/">Weavy</a> 👀</p><p>So I interviewed <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/steveruizok">Steve Ruiz</a> who is the founder of <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://tldraw.dev/">tldraw</a> where he's spent over 3 years and $5 million dollars building the perfect canvas (which powers many of the startups that we've studied on this show).</p><p>Some highlights:</p><ul><li>Why he’s been obsessing over fairies</li><li>Steve’s principles for good tool design</li><li>How he was able to learn to code so quickly</li><li>What Steve’s learned through his AI experiments</li><li>How he’s thinking about the future of agentic design</li><li>a <em>lot</em> more</li></ul>

<p>In one of the most popular episodes yet, Vitaly Friedman talked about what’s next for AI design patterns (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/vitaly-friedman">https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/vitaly-friedman</a>).</p><p>In that episode he frequently referenced Shape of AIl (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.shapeof.ai/">https://www.shapeof.ai/</a>) which is an incredible database of AI design patterns.</p><p>So I wanted to get to the source and go deep with the creator Emily Campbell (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmiecampbell/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmiecampbell/</a>) to learn how to design great AI experiences. Because she’s studied AI products more than just about anyone I’ve ever seen 👀</p><p>Some of my favorite highlights:</p><p>- Ways to build trust in agentic products</p><p>- Her favorite patterns for enhancing prompts</p><p>- The traits she looks for when hiring AI designers</p><p>- + a <em>lot</em> more</p><p></p><p>- Shape of AI (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.shapeof.ai/">https://www.shapeof.ai/</a>) (her database of patterns)</p><p>- Poke app (<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/interaction/status/1965093198482866317/video/1">https://x.com/interaction/status/1965093198482866317/video/1</a>) from Interaction</p>